Werndl 11.15x42R 11mm scharfe Patrone M.67

[yulzari]

Thank you Patrick. Much very useful information. Possibly my issue is that, with careful buying of items that need restoring and are misidentified, I can buy another rifle for 150€. On the other hand I should be thinking that a press will let me load for any future rifles. But then this is a man who deprimes with a nail and a hammer, primes with a copper tube and a hammer and sizes bullets with a drilled hole in some scrap 400 year old oak, a piece of scrap brass rod and, of course, a hammer. Did I mention the hammer? It's a good hammer. Cost me 50 cents at a vide grenier.

We will see the size when it arrives. Chappie is waiting for my cheque to clear. It will be interesting to see if a sulphur cast differs from a wax one as I shall try both methods. I will be able to see what spring steel strip I can scrounge to make a new drum leaf spring and source it's retaining screw. The leaf spring should temper from full hard nicely in the molten lead when I am casting some bullets. Less smoke than frying it in burning tallow. 20th and 21st centuries? Never heard of them.

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[Patrick Chadwick]

I can buy another rifle for 150€.

... which is about what Patrick Villiers will have paid for his Hensel mould.

If you want to shoot these old bangers, you will just have to get used to the idea that the reloading gear (dies + cases + maybe a bullet mould) is often going to cost you more than the rifle.

I bought my Egyptian Rolling Block with a set of RCBS dies for about what the die set alone would have cost. Or else I would not have bought it. Of course, you only really need the die set to form the cases for first firing, once per case. After that, BPCR cases should be neck-sized only. And for both neck-sizing (which you can sometimes avoid) and bullet seating there may be cheaper alternatives, using pistol dies, for instance. But it is the vital first forming that requires those horribly expensive dies.

I plan on a BPCR needing at least 80, better 100, properly formed cases. This covers the maximum likely requirement of a competition weekend shooting at 3 distances + a practice round + a few reserves. Look up the price of ready-to fire Martini-Henry or Snider cases, multiply by 100, and you have an amount that motivates you to learn how to reform Cal.24 shotgun cases.

And doing it yourself - being able to do it yourself - provides more satisfaction than just paying out huge sums of money.

Your Werndl looks like an easy entry into the do-it-yourself BPCR world. Go for it