Bisley Trafalgar Fair

[Gnr527]

Around again.

4T - £8K!
L42 - £11K!
Twice fired Nr4's £1.5K!

Out of my pocket

I dont think I have seen a true Enforcer in the last three fairs.

Or have I missed a degree or two of firearms inflation recently?

John

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[Gingercat]

I suppose the true test of inflation is whether they were actually selling at those prices?

Didn't get down there myself, where there any nice SMLEs?

Regards

Mike

[Alan de Enfield]

Around again.

4T - £8K!
L42 - £11K!
Twice fired Nr4's £1.5K!

Even with full CES thats a bit OTT.
L42's seem to (occasionally) be advertised at that sort of price (mine was) but was purchased for a fair bit less.
I'd have put a complete matching No4T + CES at £4 - £5k top

No doubt they will soon be actually selling at the 'Bisley prices'

[Beerhunter]

I thought that the No.4 SKL had a good price at £195 and Chris Smith had a pristine Webley Mk.IV - at a pristine price. Ammo Zone was not as cheap as he has been. Finally not as many tables as usual. I wonder if they are all waiting for next week's arms fair.

The HBSA Section 7 Exhibition was well attended both by exhibitors and visitors. Some immaculate Lanchesters on show and TWO nickel Fosberrys, plus a .380 auto Fosberry! From three different collectors.

Not only did we show our pistols and revolvers but we were able to offer advice to several visitor about Section 7.

[Thunderbox]

There is a genuine low-number Enforcer in the Veranda with Ken - price c.£1500.

The 4(T) and L42 are so priced at the owner's request; the 4(T) is way over the top, but the L42 price is close to a couple of recent UK sales.


Customers are mostly to blame for those crazy prices; why do people insist on buying from the most outrageously expensive vendors? Just why would you go and pay £1500 for a mint unused No4 Mk2 when an identical one was £550 on the next table?! I kindly briefed one chap - buying his first .303 - on every No4 at the fair. He got some honest advice from a couple of other dealers as well - but then went and paid about £700 for a right bag of bits with a glossy label.... Oh well, you can try and help people, but...

[Gil Boyd]

Sold my 4T into a guy in Holland who wanted it. Full CES totally all original £4500 and I thought that was tops and a very fair price to him, especially as he lived in Arnhem too boot.
Perhaps I should have kept hold of it if it was twice as much, there are some dreamers about

[Simon P]

The 4(T) and L42 are so priced at the owner's request; the 4(T) is way over the top, but the L42 price is close to a couple of recent UKicon sales.

I have seen several L42s for sale recently all around this price, Richard in Devizes has a nice one at just under £11K, I had a look at the one in the arms fair a few weeks ago and is of similar condition the one at the fair also has the L42 Lens Cleaning Brush Container as well.

Full Bore Rifles - The Devizes Gunsmith

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Customers are mostly to blame for those crazy prices; why do people insist on buying from the most outrageously expensive vendors?

Thats the problem, if you sell your stock at reasonable prices, other dealers just buy them from you and add a few £100 and sell them quite easily at these ridiculous prices, then everyone thinks their guns are worth the same type of money, an example of this is, a chap brought in a nice Envoy on wednesday and thought that it was worth £900 trade to buy it in from him....

Thats why I am now very select to which dealers I trade with.

[Gnr527]

I suppose the true test of inflation is whether they were actually selling at those prices?

Didn't get down there myself, where there any nice SMLEs?

Regards

Mike

Mike

Dont know much about SMLEs but I think I caught a glimpse of one fitted up with a Winchester A5 scope on off-set mounts - looked very interesting but I was distracted before I could check it out.

John

[Gil Boyd]

Thought Richards was a tad overpriced myself. But heyho, if he gets £11K for it as it is, it will set the bench mark for the rest of us with full CES then!!!
I thought it had gone back to Bisley as unsold or have I got the wrong one (deceaseds sale)??

[RWSENG]

Asking prices do tend to rise rather than recede, particularly where no more of a particular item are being made. I have seen a marked increase in realised prices over recent years however I too think 8K for a 4T a little optimistic today, but maybe not in a year or so at the current rate (I have shifted one for 6K but that was the exception, 4K tends to be more usual). I have sold 7 L42's in the last 2 years with prices ranging from 6K to 12K, barrel condition and shooting prowess has been of more concern to prospective purchasers than CES interestingly...

As for standard No4's - £1,500 for "proofed only" examples again appears a little steep but then for the chap actually looking to buy one with cash in his pocket rather than others of us sitting back and commenting on it maybe they look attractive? The last "old stock" new barrels I have seen offered were £500 a piece, buy a clapped rifle for £300, buy a new barrel, get someone to fit it for you, headspace, proof and adjust the bedding to suit, suddenly the cost is creeping up. The first No4 I bought cost me £275.00 and it had a mint bore - at the same time a litre of diesel cost me 60p and I was earning £150.00 a week......

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And no Gil, none of my L42's have or had gone back to Bisley or anywhere else for that matter, thanks for your interest though.