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25-5 Death of the Red Baron 11-25-2014, 08:46 PM
browningautorifle I have the book about the... 11-25-2014, 08:47 PM
25-5 BAR I was skeptical of the... 11-25-2014, 10:37 PM
browningautorifle The Red Baron's last flight,... 11-25-2014, 10:42 PM
25-5 I will do that. Thanks 11-26-2014, 09:05 AM
Trap4570 I remember reading a book... 11-26-2014, 09:53 AM
browningautorifle That was a fact, pilots... 11-26-2014, 11:00 AM
RCS I have the book "The Red... 11-26-2014, 01:10 PM
Bob Womack Another little fact was that... 11-26-2014, 07:05 PM
browningautorifle Yes, I knew that. I was... 11-26-2014, 07:38 PM
RCS Dr1 11-26-2014, 09:01 PM
browningautorifle Rats...spilled the beans. I... 11-26-2014, 11:23 PM
Gil Boyd In between courses on... 12-25-2014, 03:33 PM
Harlan (Deceased) I kind of think so too, but... 11-26-2014, 10:59 PM
mike webb Roy Brown was given credit by... 11-27-2014, 02:20 PM
Harlan (Deceased) Thanks for the updated info... 11-27-2014, 02:35 PM
browningautorifle Agreed, and it looks better... 11-27-2014, 03:49 PM
RCS Richthofen's DR1 11-27-2014, 04:16 PM
browningautorifle I don't think so, but if they... 11-28-2014, 05:05 PM
Harlan (Deceased) NICE model DCS! Also, I've... 11-27-2014, 04:45 PM
Vincent https://www.youtube.com/watch?... 11-27-2014, 11:05 PM
Bob Womack In that first clip did you... 11-28-2014, 08:43 AM
CINDERS The Sopwith Camel was a... 11-28-2014, 08:53 PM
Bob Womack Doing a search on Richthofen... 11-29-2014, 09:31 AM
jamie5070 I watched a documentary a... 11-29-2014, 05:48 PM
Roy At the Omaka Airshow in... 12-08-2014, 05:05 AM
browningautorifle At least he's showing them... 12-08-2014, 12:59 PM
WarPig1976 Huh, Hollywood folk and a... 12-08-2014, 01:16 PM
Bob Womack Steven Spielberg was said to... 12-09-2014, 07:58 AM
WarPig1976 That's even more ironic. It... 12-09-2014, 10:03 AM
browningautorifle Personally, I like it better... 12-08-2014, 03:15 PM
Roy Sir Peter has always been... 12-08-2014, 10:57 PM
Gil Boyd Bob, The remains of the... 12-09-2014, 08:33 AM
browningautorifle But no guns? Wonder where... 12-09-2014, 10:04 AM
Gil Boyd There's a story in how all... 12-09-2014, 12:04 PM
browningautorifle Exactly. It must have been a... 12-09-2014, 12:12 PM
mike webb Just like in the Middle Ages,... 12-17-2014, 09:18 AM
Gil Boyd Yes ha ha..................... 12-17-2014, 11:50 AM
Harlan (Deceased) You're sure correct about... 12-18-2014, 02:07 PM
Gil Boyd Imagine....................its... 12-19-2014, 04:13 AM
Bob Womack Well, not to be oppositional... 12-19-2014, 08:53 AM
25-5 Battlefields of any size have... 12-19-2014, 02:19 PM
browningautorifle It would make sense as... 12-25-2014, 03:35 PM
Gil Boyd Merry Christmas Jim, I meant... 12-25-2014, 03:39 PM
gsimmons I think you're right, Gil. It... 12-25-2014, 03:44 PM
Gil Boyd Jim, Do have any WW1... 12-25-2014, 03:49 PM
browningautorifle They are Aussies because of... 12-25-2014, 04:01 PM
lboos This thread is the most... 12-25-2014, 06:38 PM
Gil Boyd It clearly looks like a free... 12-26-2014, 06:56 AM
Harlan (Deceased) The Germans were so 'beaten... 01-07-2015, 02:54 AM
Gil Boyd Harlan, No ramblings there... 01-07-2015, 04:44 AM
Harlan (Deceased) I'm also from German descent... 01-07-2015, 07:08 AM
browningautorifle If you read the book I was... 01-07-2015, 09:19 AM
Gil Boyd Jim, Yes Thanks I have read... 01-07-2015, 12:10 PM
browningautorifle I thought he was probed...at... 01-07-2015, 03:22 PM
boomer656 100 Years Ago Today 04-21-2018, 07:22 AM
Vincent Richthofen's military funeral 04-21-2018, 10:56 PM
henry r Gil, going back to your '15... 04-22-2018, 12:46 AM
Gil Boyd Vincent, Nice footage ... 04-22-2018, 04:41 AM
CINDERS Gil in #59 you talk about... 04-22-2018, 05:00 AM
Gil Boyd I just reckon, it was his... 04-22-2018, 05:50 AM
CINDERS :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: 04-22-2018, 05:56 AM
Gil Boyd ................................. 04-22-2018, 08:24 AM
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    Another little fact was that the engines that looked like radials were actually rotary engines - the propeller was bolted to the engine block. The whole engine rotated around a fixed crankshaft mounted to the firewall. The whole affair, with all that engine mass in motion, contributed to generous centrifugal effect, causing the plane to resist directional change. It also caused unexpected torque behavior in the roll axis - a roll with the direction of the engine was aided by the motion of the engine and a roll against the motion of the engine was resisted. Adding or removing power at low speed or on the ground could be fraught with unexpected torque results as well in a hard-to-recover situation. On the Fokker Dr.1, wingtip skids were added to help protect on takeoff and landing. As a result of these odd characteristics and because the rotary engines weren't that successful a design from the start, most reproductions use radial engines in place of the rotaries. A plus was that these engines cooled rather well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Womack View Post
    rotary engines - the propeller was bolted to the engine block
    Yes, I knew that. I was talking about that just last night. The aircraft would roll one way perfectly, the other not so much...
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    Dr1

    My opinion is that the Red Baron was killed by a Lewis m/g fired from the ground troops


    a few photos of some old scale models showing DR1's from Jasta 11 and Jasta 19Attachment 58277Attachment 58276

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    the Red Baron was killed by a Lewis m/g fired from the ground troops
    Rats...spilled the beans. I was an MG instructor for years and advance machine guns too. When the book talked about a MG Sgt that took over the gun from his squad and used so many leads to engage the aircraft, the jig was up. He was hit from that side, and it wasn't from behind like Brown thought. Even jinking couldn't make him get hit like that. That claim was submitted after the cutoff so it never even entered into discussion. It shows in the book as an afterthought. The aircraft was utterly pilfered like Harlan says and the guns disappeared. The reappeared for a picture and then disappeared again, never to resurface again...Unless RCS has them...
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    In between courses on Christmas day.....................found this photo on Flea Bay:
    7x5 Gloss Photo ww2DC9 World War 1 WW1 Misc Richthofen Guns | eBay

    If you zoom in, the two officers inspecting what purport to be the Baron's guns from his downed aircraft, look like Australianicon cap badges.
    Anybody from down under confirm that?
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