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    Quote Originally Posted by dttuner View Post
    Just sent him an email, so let's see what he says!
    I'm pretty sure he will confirm that it is a Belgian gun, my spangled AC and proof markings information comes out off his book.
    Maybe he can give some more information about the maker by looking at the style of the d.b. pistol.
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    No need to argue over this. The proofs look genuine-enough Belgian proofs for me, and I have seen several pistols like this on the market here in Germanyicon. As already pointed out - nothing to do with tigers, just a cheaper alternative to a real revolver for situations where one shot is not enough.

    And the best candidate I can find for the chamber is....

    ... the 11.3x36R Gasser-Montenegro. A very hefty pistol cartridge indeed - 44 to 47mm OAL depending on the bullet and case version - longer than a 45 Colt, and not something which you would like to use for a target shooting competition. But possibly the best "man-stopper" of its vintage. An awful lot of "oomph" in that case! After repelling the assailant you probably needed a visit to the physio to have your wrist treated.

    Anything longer than the Gasser would seem to be a carbine cartridge*, and hardly believable for a handgun - although I once saw a revolver chambered for the Snider cartridge!

    However, the Gasser case has a rim diameter of about 14.2mm. Dttuner, could you please use your calipers to measure the INSIDE diameter of the rim recess, to see if a 14.2mm rim would fit?


    *In fact, the long Gasser has similar dimensions to the cartridge for the M1867 Werndl carbine. Surely enough for anybody's wrist?**


    ** In 1882 it was replaced by a shorter version, and the remaining army stocks were sold to Montenegro. Hence the commonly used name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNPROFOR1994 View Post
    I'm pretty sure he will confirm that it is a Belgian gun, my spangled AC and proof markings information comes out off his book.
    Maybe he can give some more information about the maker by looking at the style of the d.b. pistol.
    So, unfortunately, the guy is not the most pleasant individual.
    Basically 4-5 emails back-n-forth, filled with him using lots of exclamation points, and repeatedly trying to get me to buy his book. Considering all the emails written, he could have wrote me a one-liner including some helpful information.
    I even quoted all the findings you guys put together in this thread, to try and make him understand I was looking for confirmation, or additional detail.
    Disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dttuner View Post
    So, unfortunately, the guy is not the most pleasant individual.
    Basically 4-5 emails back-n-forth, filled with him using lots of exclamation points, and repeatedly trying to get me to buy his book. Considering all the emails written, he could have wrote me a one-liner including some helpful information.
    I even quoted all the findings you guys put together in this thread, to try and make him understand I was looking for confirmation, or additional detail.
    Disappointing.
    Oh yeah, and his book is $30, but he wants to charge $45 for shipping...

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