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    Not sure on how your return policy works over there but here once you brought it you own it and there ain't no way its going back to the dealer unless you want a court case and try false advertising, I mean look at it this way I buy an MG off you take it away come back 2 days later after thrashing it to death and say give me my money back.....sorry cobber won't work.
    Trains of thought, get the minor stuff fixed as PL alluded, the Envoy 7.62 etc mags will squirrel even the moths out of your wallet, try it out if it shoots then keep it as a fun gun or part it out not sure on your regs but in Australiaicon it is fairly tight trying to sell barrels and actions without a FDL as we end up the not so nice people with orphans that fly under the police radar. My advice is go to the range and have a blast up freshly burnt gunpowder is good for the soul and besides it may shoot really well
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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Not sure on how your return policy works over there but here once you brought it you own it and there ain't no way its going back to the dealer unless you want a court case and try false advertising
    I'm afraid that technically that's not actually true - the Australianicon Consumer Law provides that goods sold by businesses must be fit for their intended purpose, meet their descriptions, etc. In the event they don't, the purchaser is entitled to a replacement, repair or refund.

    This is all well and good when buying new goods from established bricks-and-mortar retailers; if you buy a transistor radio (they're still a thing, right?) and it conks out six months later, you can take it back to the shop and are legally entitled to get a new one, get that one fixed or get your money back.

    I'm not an expert on consumer law by any stretch of the imagination but it's my understanding it gets a lot murkier with second-hand goods, especially really old stuff and double-especially things from private sales. If the vendor has made it abundantly clear the sale is "as is" (which most private sales generally are, I believe), then it's too bad if turns out that second-hand radio you got turns out to be a knock-off brand held together inside with duct tape and fencing wire, which can only get the Angry Old People talkback AM stations when it's cloudy outside.

    Of course, what the consumer legislation says you're entitled to versus how real life actually works can be two different things and as Cinders says, on a second-hand rifle which has been sold in good faith (eg no intent to mislead the buyer) it's possibly going to be a huge pain in the backside to get a refund or rectification unless you're dealing with an established dealer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seaspriter View Post
    Dealers are in the business of buying, selling, and trading. They seldom are detailed experts on one single type of weapon, like the Milsurps experts on this site. The dealer, more often than not, is somewhat familiar with a multitude of guns, new, used, and antique, but not necessarily an expert on a niche gun like yours. If he's an honest, trustworthy dealer, he will thank you, acknowledge the error, apologize, and take some action to make sure it is a fair arrangement. If he's untrustworthy, then you must take other courses of action.
    Well said. I agree completely.
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    Happy Ending. Refund received and off to Bisley this weekend to buy a starter rifle for the project. Will get a Fultons 'No Drill' mount to try and have a Pecar scope on the way. I just hope that my FAC renewal will not be any more than 2 months overdue and our local range re opens before the summer is over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert303 View Post
    Happy Ending. Refund received and off to Bisley this weekend to buy a starter rifle for the project. Will get a Fultons 'No Drill' mount to try and have a Pecar scope on the way. I just hope that my FAC renewal will not be any more than 2 months overdue and our local range re opens before the summer is over!
    I hope that you will pop by the HBSA Exhibition on Short Siberia.

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    I will try to, but am likely to be stuck on a Trade Stand trying to be 'Civil' to 'Customers' (never my strong point in my full time previous job). I do NOT pretend to be an expert by any means but how some stand hoders who are experts put up with some of the rubbish they hear I do not know. Then there are the 'Sighted Blind' who have to run their sticky fingers over everything as they walk by. Then there are the ------ I think I'll go and lie down now ;-)

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