Recent Inheritance: "CSA" M1809

[garrettbragg12]

Photo 1) As far as one can tell from the photos, it is
EITHER
a Prussian M1809, converted to percussion from 1839 on, when the M/39 was introduced as a new percussion musket.
OR
an M/39. The 2 types look so similar that one needs a close-up of the lockplate and surrounding wood to tell the difference.


Check: the old percussion-conversion M1809s had a bore of 18,56mm. The M/39 had a bore of (max) 18.3mm. Bores wear, but if the bore is less than 18.5mm it is the M/39.


Photo 2) The buttplate seems to be marked to the 15th Landwehr - I can't think of any other unit that would abbreviate to LWR.


Photo 3) The stamp is upside down. It is the Prussian crown over FR (for Friedrich Wilhelm). The usual inspection/acceptance stamp for the completed musket.


Photo 4) Again upside down. Crown over S is the personal stamp of the inspector, whose name presumably began with S.


Photo 5) Is a forgery with modern punches. How very, very stupid to spoil what would otherwise be a serious collector's item by faking up a false provenance.

Thanks a ton for breaking it down. The cartouches on these are allot more fancy looking than the M1 stocks I'm used to!

Here's the only pic of the lock plate I have as of now:
Attachment 64232

With the faked CSA stamp, would it be frowned upon to do a little wood work to cover it up?

Information

Warning: This is a relatively older thread This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

[gew8805]

Thanks a ton for breaking it down. The cartouches on these are allot more fancy looking than the M1 stocks I'm used to!

Here's the only pic of the lock plate I have as of now:
Attachment 64232

With the faked CSA stamp, would it be frowned upon to do a little wood work to cover it up?

Definitely frowned upon, they are fairly deep and will be impossible to remove without doing more damage. The "CSA" fake markings are there, they are now a part of the gun's history. Just be sure to let people who look at it know that they are not what they appear to be.