Primer 014: Ross Rifle Mark III (by C&Rsenal)

[Othais]

Glad to see you guys are enjoying it. As for the concerns, I'm only as good as my sources and I relied heavily on The Ross Rifle Story as it's the only detailed book I could turn up.

1st Issue, you're right he did just recommend it. The book didn't make mention of a refusal so I misspoke.

2nd: The Lee-Enfield did have some issues with poor ammo but on the whole, without going into a separate discussion (that we'll reserve for the LE episode) the LE had an easier time with out of spec ammo from the start. Basically I didn't want to tell the same story twice and I'm holding it.

3rd: I'm not sure I understand, I mentioned that fact at 26:20. I even threw up a quote.

4th: I'm afraid that's my best interpretation from the book

"At the Ross factory he found that faulty manufacture was causing the "closing in" of chambers during the breeching-up"

"The July investigation was followed right through to the breeching-up operation... This suspicion was confirmed when it was found.... excessive pressure being applied by vice grips used to tighten barrels in receivers. The resulting "nipping" or closing in of the chamberes went undetected..."

"...ordered the Mark III chamber enlarged... and the gauging of all chambers AFTER breaching-up"

This book is a bit... nebulous and sort of repeats itself oddly. If I misinterpreted the passages above please let me know.

Also in the future please to comment on the videos so everyone can see any concerns. I don't think anyone can claim to have been completely correct on any old rifle topic but we'll keep doing our best.

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[Ax.303]

2nd: The Lee-Enfield did have some issues with poor ammo but on the whole, without going into a separate discussion (that we'll reserve for the LE episode) the LE had an easier time with out of spec ammo from the start. Basically I didn't want to tell the same story twice and I'm holding it.

First I`d like to say I did enjoy this for the most part. Far better than most attempts I`ve seen so far.

To give you an idea of how bad the ammo was that was giving the Ross trouble. While the Ross had a far tighter chamber at the time and does have less primary extraction than the Lee Enfield.

Here are part of a report on LEE Enfield Rifles in II corps dated April 6th 1915 (the first gas attack was on April 22nd 1915) with the same ammo.

"with the majority of rifles it is impossible to fire rapid".
"the extractor does not work when the bolt lever has been raised".
"the breach not fitted to Mk. VII S.A.A.
"The extractor is too week and fails to grip the rim of the cartridge."......