Not quite understanding modern outrage

[Vincent]

His book, “The First and the Last” is excellent.

[Sentryduty]

If I wanted to fly the FW in Germany I would just have a set of temporary decals made up to appease the history police, "look it's just a harmless diamond..." LOL.

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[Gil Boyd]

yes it was Galland initially my error, but didn't that view get passed up the line to the man?
Goring would never have got into the cockpit let alone get out with his waistline, and his sense of humour was fried anything and several bottles of the finest French wine!

[Bob Womack]

Oh, by the way the quote from Göring I was referencing was during the early part of the Battle of Britain: 'If one bomb ever falls over the Reich, you may call me Meier.' Apparently that is a colloquial phrase in Germany that means that whatever condition is contained in the first clause is simply impossible. Towards the end of the war some of the German people sarcastically called the air raid sirens "Meier's Trumpets."

Bob

[Vincent]

The ferocity of the RAF pilots in the first days of the Battle of Britain took the Germans completely by surprise. There are several accounts of RAF pilots ramming Luftwaffe aircraft after running out of ammunition (Ray Holmes is probably the most famous).

Hermann Göring was a well-respected fighter pilot in WW1. When the Battle of Britain started he was already a drug addict. And you know there’s a reason it’s called “dope”.

[Gil Boyd]

The slimmest thing on him was his magic wand
I suppose his aircraft was sign written as "The Little Focker"

[CINDERS]

Yes Meier referenced coming from the end of cow, pigs etc and all other animal anuses of this planets menagerie.
Goering was nothing but a fat arsed gong getter he could not wait to get the Blue Max after taking over Richthofen's flying circus in WWI Galland absolutely detested the man, had the Germans had a rotational system like the allies for their fighter pilots and bomber crews things may have been a tad different not forgetting the supreme leaders dabbling in the 262 project. Which if it had entered service a year earlier like it should have would have blown the B-17's out of the sky. The gun turrets on the 17's were not fast enough to follow the jets flight. The Red tails developed a system of lining up their P-51's then letting loose at the 262's so it had to fly through a wall of 50 cal projectiles. The 163 was just a glider after its fuel ran out and did not get than many air to airs besides with that fuel T-stoff it was more of a danger to the crews than us.

Another trick the Fatty liked (Gallands italics) was he would give the pilots very expensive cigars which they stuck in their sleeve pockets when they went to leave Fatty used to shake their hands but made sure his other hand crushed the cigars he had given them so they could not smoke them. The 3 German services had some very capable men, equipment and Generals thank god they had 2 twits leading them (No offence to the Germans who served either in WWII who may read that)

[Peter Laidler]

If you look hard at buildings and places in the Ruhr area of Germany you can still see the remainbs of the swastika chiselled from the old buildings. At Caernarvon Barracks in Dusseldorf, the former German RAF camp, the eagle and laurel wreath is/was still there but the cross in the centre of the wreath has been chiselled away. But, if you look hard, you can still see the occasional swastika, hidden in undergrowth or on signs. I saw some set in an old metal fence, dating from 1936 and sent a photo to a friend in Germany asking whether he could shed some light on the why's and wherefores regarding them,. Back came a speedy e-mail saying that they were absolutely taboo in Germany, even in electronic form so he'd hastily deleted them and....... Anyway.

In Dusseldorf the new underground still bears the scars of the era. In the form of bombs. If they're more than 2m away from the workings, that's where they stay!

[Seaspriter]

I'm not particularly fond of the North Vietnamese flag, or that of any Communist country. For that matter, I'm not fond of Lenin's picture or the Che Guevara shirts the Uni students cherish either, but I don't get 'cheesed off' every time I see one. The small minded subset of humanity that gets its knickers in a twist at the slightest infringement of political correctness needs a reality check.

With that, these, the aircraft and the flags, are simply historical relics much like an Egyptian chariot, a Greek Statue, Roman Gladius, a Viking long ship, or even the Tower of London and Dachau or Auschwitz. They are a part of our history and to deny history is to deny how we became who we are.

Well said Paul. My relatives fought the British in the Revolution (over civil rights), in the War of 1812 over the impressment (enforced slavery) of seamen, the American Civil War (over slavery), Germany in WWI (over aggression), Japan and Germany in WWII and then North Korea (over demonic predators), and then I in Vietnam (over Communist domination).

Today we are at peace with all these enemies (except North Korea). Being at peace means a level of reconciliation and an understanding (but never a denial) of the causes of war.

Every museum has to make choices about what to display, how to display it, and what should be communicated to the observer. Here in America there is still a deep controversy about flying the Confederate flag, which to some represents the same values the swastika means. Whenever I see either of these flags, I'm not offended; these just provide the opportunity to take the opposing view to what these flags represent -- to take the high road, an enlightened vision of the choices humanity has to make, a mission of courage to stand for human rights, and a testimony of those who were prepared to give their lives to a cause worthy of dying. That's why we celebrate Memorial Day today.

[Eaglelord17]

Well said Paul. My relatives fought the British in the Revolution (over civil rights)White slave owning colonists who refused to pay their fair taxes over a war they wished fought, in the War of 1812 over the impressment (enforced slavery) of seamen America trying to take over the whole of North America through Manifest Destiny, the American Civil War (over slavery) Political domination of the South leading to them wishing to succeed from the Union, Germany in WWI (over aggression) WWI was more a prevent empire building and trying to build a empire, realistically it wasn't Americas war, Japan and Germany in WWII Same reason as WWI, Germany Japan and Italy wanted a empire, other nations said no.
Today we are at peace with all these enemies (except North Korea). Being at peace means a level of reconciliation and an understanding (but never a denial) of the causes of war.

The understanding of what the causes of war are is changing. The farther we get from a conflicts the more we can actually analyze it in a unbiased manner. For example each one of the wars you listed can mostly be described in another way as it all depends on your view point. I will put in yellow in the quote what someone else might see them as. Some of the wars listed America was the aggressor, others America was attacked, overall though history is written by the victors and it takes centuries for the conflicts to be looked at from a unbiased standpoint (look at poor Napoleon for example, called the devil for over 100 years, finally no longer demonized to the same extent).