"13 hours" - a must to watch

[Gil Boyd]

13 HOURS a great film and a true story of how things can go terribly wrong when you are in a country who doesn't want you there, and you have no support from your countrymen who could have responded, combined with a bad leader, who ironically was awarded a medal at the end of the battle.
2012 in two separate compounds a mile apart in Benghazi, where a few Navy Seals and other Dets protected the contractors and the Ambassador against overwhelming odds.
Accurately portrayed in relation to the weapons systems used.....................made in Morocco

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[AFJon]

One of these days I'll get around to the movie. I had the opportunity to meet "Tig" and "Oz" at a book signing since they are local to me. The talk they gave was over an hour long and basically tells their story in country.

[RASelkirk]

One of these days I'll get around to the movie. I had the opportunity to meet "Tig" and "Oz" at a book signing since they are local to me. The talk they gave was over an hour long and basically tells their story in country.

And I'll bet it differs significantly from what the rest of us hear on lame-stream media...

Russ

[Gil Boyd]

Russ,
I think the guys were advisors on the film so it may it all the more believable for me

[Vincent]

One of these days I'll get around to the movie. I had the opportunity to meet "Tig" and "Oz" at a book signing since they are local to me. The talk they gave was over an hour long and basically tells their story in country.

When you heard them talk, did they mention the Quds Force?

[AFJon]

And I'll bet it differs significantly from what the rest of us hear on lame-stream media...

Russ

If you saw the special of Fox news it was similar (with out the fancy graphics)

Russ,
I think the guys were advisors on the film so it may it all the more believable for me

I believe they were. They mentioned the movie and meeting with the director. At that time the cast was not set.

When you heard them talk, did they mention the Quds Force?

I don't remember a mention of the Quds Force during their talk.

[Vincent]

Thanks.

It was the tactics used in the attack on the annex and the skill of their mortar crew that made me ask about the Quds Force. You know the expression, “If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.”

[Gil Boyd]

Vincent,
Agreed. You can't take it away from them they carefully DF'd the location by taking an exact GPS fix on the block houses, which sadly cost the lives of the two SEALs on the roof and other casulaties.
The Ambassadors death was a completely different matter, clearly things went wrong there, and its easy to criticise from an armchair, but the "citadel" was the wrong location within the building with all that combustible stuff around them and no other alternative exit to consider.

The film brings out some really useful issues for those working abroad on CP of contractors to consider.
I could see the station Chief's reluctance to commit his manpower to the location being attacked in case of an ambush, but they at least had the support of drones above that they could have used the vital intelligence they transmitted to ensure the path was clear, and perhaps history would have been different!!

[Vincent]

The Select Committee report on Benghazi - Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report | Select Committee on Benghazi

There’s a 48 page addendum by Reps Jim Jordan and Mike Pomeo.

This is their conclusion:

In the end, the administration’s efforts to impede the investigation
succeeded, but only in part. The minority members’ and their staff’s
efforts to impede the investigation succeeded also, but again only in part.
And although we answered many questions, we could not do so
completely. What we did find was a tragic failure of leadership—in the
run up to the attack and the night of—and an administration that, so
blinded by politics and its desire to win an election, disregarded a basic
duty of government: Tell the people the truth. And for those reasons
Benghazi is, and always will be, an American tragedy.

[ed skeels]

Trey Gowdy was a Prosecutor in SC, seen him in action locally, although he is a freshman in Washington, he is a Tiger and no BS guy.
It is so sad that an election is more important than some one's life. I cannot fathom the callous reasoning, or lack of, of what was done.
The video producer was re-incarcerated to prison after the "inspired" attack. What about him?
White House shut down any Libyan gun running (that come out of the Embassy) investigation by the Committee.
It's broke, how do you fix it?
Ed