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It had the 30 round mag catch on it. - Bob
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06-09-2016 08:23 PM
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Bernie, I must of missed that part. I watched it again and wanted to know more about the Wood. I didnt know this but I read there are different types of Walnut classifications. IF it is Walnut I cant help but think its very young Walnut as i was looking on the Internet to see how they classified this Wood. Then I looked at gunpartscorps and looked at there replacement Walnut Stocks and it looked just like this one without much grain patterns of the ones from WW2. The ones from WW2 are old and have been oiled a lot and the weather played a big part on how they look now. Then I came across pictures of Ruger's10/22 Stocks they too look identical. Also Iver Johnson replacement Stocks look just like this New Inland. The catalog mentions Walnut, but there Website just mentions Hard Wood. Thats just the Stock though, but really its the mechanics of the Carbine that is the Real Problem. I hope for the sake of this Company wanting to make a fine working Firearm at a low cost for a nice profit didn't put it on the market to quick while knowing that there were going to be a lot of problems. I can say for sure being in Manufacturing & Production it cost a lot more money to have to do rework because the customer sends you back the product you sold him then ships it back to us on are dime then being paid again to find the problem then send it and pay Q&C to give the okay to Produce it all over again and pay to ship it again. (Now I know why Upper Management were So MADD when we did Rework) I just hope this New Co. was ready for this and one day they will get it right. I have to admit I was going to buy one right when they hit the market and was told by member here to wait awhile and see if there was going to be any problems first. Thank you for doing that for me. Im rooting for this new Inland to get it Right. I just Wish they would let us know what there doing to fix these problems and suspend Marketing for a bit cause they are selling more and more of these Carbines to people not in the know about it. People like us or in other forums that know about these problems to me it just seems wrong to be Marketing this New Inland with more Problems and use that money put aside for Advertising to use on fixi g this New Firearm until anybody can buy one and have a Nice New M1
Carbine they can take to shoot anytime they want. Im sure there are some that work Just Fine, but the price there Selling them for you would expect it to work right out of the box and for a long time.
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I would have liked more info on the mags he used.
I have several USGI carbines, mostly arsenal rebuilt. They all work 100% with USGI 15 rd mags. OTOH, I get varying reliability with foreign/aftermarket 30 rd mags. I have a couple of USGI Seymour (SEY) 30 rd mags that work 100% of the time, but none of the other mags work well all the time.
I heard him say something about "Auto Ordnance", but couldn't understand it.
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There are varying reports about the reliability of Auto Ordnance Carbines. Some good, others not so good. While they aren't as good as USGI some seem serviceable.
I'm still saving my shekels for my M1
Carbine. I hope to buy it before the General Election.
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The new Inland uses mostly AO made parts and as such has also inherited most of AO's problems as well as their own problems. These carbines have been on the market now for almost a year and word is getting around that if you buy one get ready to return it as it's most likely going to have problems. That is the shame in it as when you buy something new you don't expect to have to return it to get it to operate properly. And then when you get it back the odds are it's not fixed right. Buy a USGI carbine. If it has a problem or two a cheap fix will get it running like new. And a lot cheaper then a new Inland. Use the money difference to buy more ammo and magazines if needed.
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Originally Posted by
Bruce McAskill
The new Inland uses mostly AO made parts and as such has also inherited most of AO's problems as well as their own problems. These carbines have been on the market now for almost a year and word is getting around that if you buy one get ready to return it as it's most likely going to have problems. That is the shame in it as when you buy something new you don't expect to have to return it to get it to operate properly. And then when you get it back the odds are it's not fixed right. Buy a USGI carbine. If it has a problem or two a cheap fix will get it running like new. And a lot cheaper then a new Inland. Use the money difference to buy more ammo and magazines if needed.
This is all well and good, but the prices for a USGI have made purchasing them a bit prohibitive. There are "horses rumps" that figure that their Carbines are worth more than they are. There aren't going to be many left soon. The old rifles are either becoming "clapped out" or just no longer serviceable. Eventually we'll need an alternative source. You may be right about Inland and A/O Carbines, but many won't buy any of the old Plainfield or Universal rifles.
Complain all you like, but if you don't like the A/O or Inland Carbines, you'd best quit whining and work on finding an alternative.
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Years ago, I hd an early Plainfield. It had a GI barrel and IIRC, all GI parts, except receiver. Good shooter, and very reliable. It did have a birch stock with a hard rubber/plastic putt plate, though.
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Originally Posted by
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This is all well and good, but the prices for a USGI have made purchasing them a bit prohibitive. There are "horses rumps" that figure that their Carbines are worth more than they are. There aren't going to be many left soon. The old rifles are either becoming "clapped out" or just no longer serviceable. Eventually we'll need an alternative source. You may be right about Inland and A/O Carbines, but many won't buy any of the old Plainfield or Universal rifles.
Complain all you like, but if you don't like the A/O or Inland Carbines, you'd best quit whining and work on finding an alternative.
They made 6.5M of them and there are hundreds of thousands still in this country. Many are NRA sale guns which were either untouched new 44 guns (I have 2) or fresh rebuilds (I have one). Most are in circulation but many are undoubtedly still in Grandma's closet undiscovered. These can go for $500 if you catch the Grandma or her kids. My brother in Wash state did exactly this.
"Horses rumps" are anyone who prices their carbine above what you can afford? "No longer serviceable"? Most carbines were rebuilt and carbines in general will go thousands of rounds without deterioration of the barrel. The acceptance tests were 6000 rounds and some of these test guns were simply cleaned and sent out for issue. I'd say that the average carbine was carried by some officer, cook, signal personnel and fired very little. These are far from worn out.
"Complain all you like, but if you don't like the A/O or Inland Carbines, you'd best quit whining and work on finding an alternative." Sound advice, I'd suggest a genuine US carbine at any price you can afford.
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The last time I checked, Carbines abounded on Gun Broker, though in light of recent events, I am guessing prices have jumped quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by
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I'd say that the average carbine was carried by some officer, cook, signal personnel and fired very little. These are far from worn out.
We had opportunity to get these years ago and many still had original features. Flat bolts, flip sights, type one bands, "I" cut stocks...and the barrels were all great. I'd rather have an older rebuild than a new nothing-certain gun.
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