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    My ex-east experiences

    The only 2 guns I have brought ex-east have been nightmares my Parker Hale 1200 Safari Grade 22/250 was as you say "shoot - by jove it can shoot bloody accurate rifle in good nik...." so I brought it for $750 got it here and the group at 100m was a dinner plate as I had previously owned a PH 1200 Safari Grade 22/250 the accuracy was not there that one was stolen along with a Lithgowicon 1945 MkIII.
    So I had a re-crown $100 same dinner plate bit the bullet new barrel waited 6 months for a 1-12TR Bartlein 28" tube (Frank from Bartlein is a really good chap helped me heaps) so that was fitted for an all up $1,000 (see where this is headed?) now I have found out the accuiracy is still not under 1.0MOA/100 why the old gunsmith put a long throat on the chamber and when I sat the rounds at 2.350" COAL they were jumping @200-thou!
    Now the pills are barely in the case with a 20 thou jump making me wonder about their concentricity after they have hit the feed ramp as it still wont group and I have all the bells and whistles for setting jumps, trimming, turning, uniforming, shoulder measuring & bumping and so on till the cows come home??
    So now it is a case chop 1/4" off the chamber end re-reaming with a standard throat and go from there my wife has named it "The Black Hole Rifle" as money disappears very fast with it.

    My T is also ex east from a friend (sadly the deal cost a friendship) who did not miss me in price but same same this had a 20moa at a 100 with my hand loads pulled the gun down after discovered by accident it was rocking on the trigger guard screw front even though it was rock tight, when I got the bottom fore stock off the draws were smashed to pieces literally so Ken Davis the Master Stock-maker fixed it with a method he devised for such an issue it will never again need the draws fixing. So that was an extra $250 ontop of the all up $6,900.00 the rifle cost with a very solid aluminium transport case.
    Purists may cringe at the idea but from my side who cares because I will be long gone before they ever need doing again

    Nice assortment of weaponry you have can see your dilemma..........
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    So now it is a case chop 1/4" off the chamber end re-reaming with a standard throat and go from there my wife has named it "The Black Hole Rifle" as money disappears very fast with it.
    Cinders,

    Your situaiton is one of great concern. If I was buying a range rifle (my other past-time, to 'learn how to shoot...) from afar I think it'd be a different kettle of fish.

    The small mercy of Service rifles is their tolerances are... tolerant. Having said that, I'm now about to replace bolt heads in No 1 Mk III*s and another No 4... as I know how far out the head space is. I guess the old addage of 'ignorance is bliss' sometimes covers up a multitude of sins?

    Will consider your points very carefully when talking with these fellows next.
    Trying to save Service history, one rifle at a time...

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