Mr. Laidler - your single-shot SA80 experience in 1993

[David TS]

That's not true, just a story. There's no sense to their rules, they're written by bureaucrats that have no firearms knowledge. They went through a firearms journal and chose everything that looked dangerous or black in color.

Jim

It's certainly true there WAS a security van holdup (Brinks Mat, North Hill Mall Calgary, March 20, 1998, as you probably know), but I appreciate your input as a local, and take your point that the two issues aren't linked.

Regards

David

[Sentryduty]

Further, all bullpup's are not banned, just a prescrbed list of names and bullpup conversion stocks for convential rifles.

The Type-97NSR, Tavor TAR-21, and Keltec RFB rifles are common, non-restricted bullpup rifles in Canada.

By definition of bullpup, a firearm with action behind the trigger, even the Sub-2000 and Browning Buck Mark Rifle are technically bullpups.

Each of those are legal in Canada as well.

[browningautorifle]

there WAS a security van holdup (Brinks Mat, North Hill Mall Calgary, March 20, 1998,

That was a guy that was on one my Small Arms Instructor's courses engineered that. We were a bit surprised... As mentioned, the Tavor is very widely owned.

There's been lots of holdups, they don't drive the firearms laws. I have to stop there though, Badger will whack me.

[Flying10uk]

If a firearm is on the Canadian banned/prohibitive list can it legally be owned in Canada in deactivated form or are there some types/makes that can't even be owned in deactivated form?

[Sentryduty]

Deactivated firearms, if done to the standard are considered non-firearms like any other similar weighted item of metal.

That standard seems to evolve from time to time but is no where near as rigorous as proofing like the UK.

Of course if the deact were used in a criminal manner it stands to reason a suspect might be charged as though it were a live gun.

[browningautorifle]

a firearm is on the Canadian banned/prohibitive list can it legally be owned in Canada

Those are called prohibs and are a special class of legally owned firearms, live, on a licence. Machine guns, converted firearms, short barreled or caliber specific handguns, special small size converted autos...on and on... All quite legal if you have that class as a grandfathered owner.

[Flying10uk]

Ok thanks, Jim.

Unfortunately the E.U. have got "involved" over here but hopefully that won't always be the case.