Counterboring / repair of barrel crowns in australian cadet service??

[BushyFromOz]

I have just come across an all matching 1941 Lithgow, even the woodwork is still stamped MA41 and does not appear to have been replaced. curiously, the barrel has been recrowned with the muzzle counterbored a 3-5mm. The condition of the metal would indicate it was done many years ago, and may have even been refinished at the time.

My first though is that this is probably something done by a cadet unit armorer when the federal government cut a lot of funding to them in the 70's, but the originality of the rest of the rifle makes me believe that it is at least not a total bubba job and quite a bit of care went into keeping that thing complete and together in its original format

Thoughts?

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[Homer]

I've got one the same. Always thought it was done by an enthusiast acurising his rifle.

[BushyFromOz]

I've got one the same. Always thought it was done by an enthusiast accurising his rifle.

I sorta thought that as well, except it doesn't show anything else that indicates it was used as a range rifle, and I have never seen a range rifle that was matching numbers and like this one. other than the recrowning, its perfect

[Peter Laidler]

Re crowning was never part of our system, even when slightly cord-worn when crowning would/might have solved the problem

[BushyFromOz]

Re crowning was never part of our system, even when slightly cord-worn when crowning would/might have solved the problem

Thanks peter, this is why i thought it might have been an AIRTC or RAAC unit in aus that did it on the sly. It was every man (unit) for themselves at one stage to get by. I do remember that part of the withdrawel of funds included both uniform and armoring. My first set of greens i was issued in the AIRTC in 1990 was made in 1956, and there will still the odd patt37 webbing pouches floating around

[browningautorifle]

still the odd patt37 webbing pouches

Peter' favorites.

[BushyFromOz]

Peter' favorites.

lol =D

I do remember as a kid a Bren gun pouch would carry a lot of packets of noodles with my hexamine stove =D

[Peter Laidler]

I'm not sure what sort of skills/authority a 'Cadet Force armourer' would have had to do something that us REME/RAEME Armourers wouldn't be able to do - or be equipped to do. We did have a few local school cadet stuff under our wing in Oz, as we do here. I suspect that it's been nicely done in civvy life afterwards. Maybe a bit of cordwear to clean up.....

The thing about '37 patt webbing I really, truly don't understand, especially as someone brought up as an apprentice for 3 years with the stuff and all that that entails, is that people collect it! As I seem to remember the stuff we had, the web belt part was the only thing that was standard throughout the range. There were low pouches, higher pouches, long bayonet frogs, high frogs, frogs with loops, crossstraps with brass buckles or steel buckles. As for those anklets........ Anyway, just talking about it has put me in a bad mood.

[Simon P]

I have only seen counter boring on Military Rifles; that have came out of Finland and this has always been on Mosin Nagants

[Frederick303]

In my M1 carbine manual (TM9-1276, Feb 1953) counter boring M1 carbines was allowed during rework. I saw one Winchester carbine in all my years that came out of south America with such a rework.

The Russian collectors tell me in the post 1953 rebuild programs in the Soviet Union cord worn rifles were counter-bored. I certainly have seen such in the M-N imports form the 2006 to 2012 time period that came out of the case with mint external condition and pitted bores that had been counter-bored.

None of the Australian REME instructions that have been published , and the last one I ever saw was from 1973 or so provided for such a counter-boring. I very much doubt it was done in any military service.