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    Now this is going to get political, and I don't wish it to get out of hand, and I agree with the NRA and their values in the States, and I know a bucketload of Law Enforcement and other units operating in the States and around the world today, but as its late here its worth on this BREXIT day talking about these very same values we all treasure wherever you are.

    Yes Europe has a variance to the USAicon, but in that, and if you interrogate the logic, we are polls apart.
    The U.S. amendments are there for good reason, it was the English that caused those very amendments to be written in defence of their lives and property. But, this was written in the days of single shot muskets, and not automatic weapons as I see it.

    What I can't get my head around is..............if "they" in the U.S. Congress believe they are all singing off the same songsheet, as individual States, why do some States let you buy what you want without restriction, which is predominantly in the southern States, others don't, some have a variance of ID to get a weapon, and others wear their firearms openly, like Texas.

    Now that, as a comparison to the UK, would mean every County would have a different firearms law.

    As an ex Police Officer, that in itself is self destructive, and I am sure, the Westminster attack would have been so different, had the guy had a firearm or access to any automatic weapon!!!. Attacks luckily on home owners in the UK are fairly rare. When they do happen and firearms are used, they are in the main used in the right context.............self defence and reasonable force.

    I know we are talking a completely different landscape with thousands, not hundreds of miles apart as States, compared to our Counties of Englandicon, and in addition, we had no Indians or British soldiers or Frenchicon soldiers to contend with, which helped the individual arming process along.....but surely there has to be one regulation on the issue of "deadly" automatic weapons today, and a modicum of common sense applied to this whole subject right across the western logistical sphere??

    Then, and only then, can "we" Teach are children well, which is what this thread is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Now this is going to get political, and I don't wish it to get out of hand, and I agree with the NRA and their values in the States, and I know a bucketload of Law Enforcement and other units operating in the States and around the world today, but as its late here its worth on this BREXIT day talking about these very same values we all treasure wherever you are.

    Yes Europe has a variance to the USAicon, but in that, and if you interrogate the logic, we are polls apart.
    The U.S. amendments are there for good reason, it was the English that caused those very amendments to be written in defence of their lives and property. But, this was written in the days of single shot muskets, and not automatic weapons as I see it.

    What I can't get my head around is..............if "they" in the U.S. Congress believe they are all singing off the same songsheet, as individual States, why do some States let you buy what you want without restriction, which is predominantly in the southern States, others don't, some have a variance of ID to get a weapon, and others wear their firearms openly, like Texas.

    Now that, as a comparison to the UK, would mean every County would have a different firearms law.

    As an ex Police Officer, that in itself is self destructive, and I am sure, the Westminster attack would have been so different, had the guy had a firearm or access to any automatic weapon!!!. Attacks luckily on home owners in the UK are fairly rare. When they do happen and firearms are used, they are in the main used in the right context.............self defence and reasonable force.

    I know we are talking a completely different landscape with thousands, not hundreds of miles apart as States, compared to our Counties of Englandicon, and in addition, we had no Indians or British soldiers or Frenchicon soldiers to contend with, which helped the individual arming process along.....but surely there has to be one regulation on the issue of "deadly" automatic weapons today, and a modicum of common sense applied to this whole subject right across the western logistical sphere??

    Then, and only then, can "we" Teach are children well, which is what this thread is about.
    "Incoming......................"
    England and the US are two totally different countries today - with totally different traditions and attitudes. This sounds suspiciously like the "guns cause crime" bit I hear from liberals. If that were true, how do you explain Switzerlandicon?

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