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    To Group Therapy - your post mentions original Spanish documents. Do you happen to have the "Folio Descriptive del Mosqueton Mauser Calibre 7,62 mm. NATO" Madrid 1967? I found a posting on Internet of the cover of the booklet; I've also read there was another version from 1965?? I would be very much interested in confirming that the above document(s) really existed and not some Internet hoax or such. Thank you.
    BTW, of course this is really about which "7.62" the stamp on the receiver is referring to - the NATO or the CETME, since, on mine, it only reads "7.62". And, it appears there were indeed two 7.62 cartridges in the 1960's when the conversions for the Guardia were done. Much internet "ink" spilt on this topic, but I am finding very little documentary support for various opinions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potashminer View Post
    To Group Therapy - your post mentions original Spanish documents. Do you happen to have the "Folio Descriptive del Mosqueton Mauser Calibre 7,62 mm. NATO" Madrid 1967? ...
    BTW, of course this is really about which "7.62" the stamp on the receiver is referring to - the NATO or the CETME, since, on mine, it only reads "7.62"..... Much internet "ink" spilt on this topic, but I am finding very little documentary support for various opinions...
    It is NATO 7.62 from interviews from Spanish officers involved in the conversion and deployment of these firearms back in the day. Here is what can find from my current files. I have more extensive documentation somewhere but I cannot find it right now:



    Still shoots 2 to 3 MOA. That is just what Mausers typically do. Not bad for a milsurp with original barrel and ball ammo.

    (Flamers-saver your breath. I have heard it all)







    These Spanish Mausers are the favorite whipping boy of the internet firearms world. But do a search. There are more blown up AR's and M1Garands out there.

    Like any old firearm, some are worn out, broken, or abused. But there is little credible evidence that these Model 1916 SM's are as dangerous as some make them out to be. The critics never seem to come up with the mountains of evidence they speak of when pressed. (Now the original 19th century cut down and modified '93's are a different story).

    I have put well over a thousand rounds through this one at this point. And it still gauges like when I got it and it has no lug set-back. I stick to Federal XM80 white box. I also know others who have shot theirs just as much.

    There is a lot of mis-information and chest thumping, especially by certain self important gun smiths who favor "other" firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Group Therapy View Post
    These Spanish Mausers are the favorite whipping boy of the internet firearms world.
    The people that knock these rifles don't own them and are just regurgitating the crap they read on the internet. I hope people keep spewing it and not buying them. I'll keep buying them for low prices and enjoying them. Just bought some more surplus 7mm and 7.62 not too long ago, need to get more before January else I'm screwed because I live in California.

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