I have tried the Berger's and they are ok.... I have my best results with smk bthp 168's With imr 4895 (44grains) worked very nicely.... submoa. I tried 175 smk's but they were not as good. Oh, and I used berdan primers. Powder valley had them on sale last year or 2 and I bought 10,000 of them 😳. Why, idk other than I knew they would be a rare finding in the future. Then at the height of my work-up, gp11 miraculously appeared on the market and I bought a lot to last for years. To answer your question, the bergers were not worth the extra bit of money. Greats results with Sierra match king