Mosin zero?

[Eaglelord17]

The bayonet will only effect the POI when the gun is fired by a inexperienced shooter with poor form . If you do not hold the rifle correctly to manage the recoil , the weight of the bayo will hold down the muzzle climb . The bayo has never made a difference with any of the good shooters I have seen ,nor any of my 80 Mosins . Another internet myth is that a Mosin " has the barrel "" tuned "" for the bayonet " and shoots better with it on the rifle . Facts : any movable , vibrating weight on the barrel is bad for accuracy . Mosin's were designed to be made quickly and in large numbers , the barrel has a convex mating surface and is screwed in until the rear sight base is close to the top . The resulting barrel pressure with vary from 25 to 250 lbs [ on the ones I have removed barrels from ] , not hardly " tuned " . Russian snipers did not shoot with bayo's on , a lot of their snipers had non scoped rifles .

It was doctrine that the majority of rifles (i.e. Dragoons, Infantry Rifles, M91/30s, etc.) were sighted in with the bayonets mounted. If you don't believe having a bayonet mounted makes a difference, you likely haven't shot a rifle with or without a bayonet, as it most definitely changes POI (and there has been many attempts to mitigate those effects throughout history, if it didn't have a effect militaries would have ignored it as opposed to doing things like the M95 Stutzen bayonets with a sight mounted on the bayonet, or changing mounting techniques like the Germans removing the muzzle ring). Inexperience has nothing to do with it, the barrel harmonics, and how the bayonet is mounted does.

I can't even believe I have to try and explain this concept.

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[jond41403]

It was doctrine that the majority of rifles (i.e. Dragoons, Infantry Rifles, M91/30s, etc.) were sighted in with the bayonets mounted. If you don't believe having a bayonet mounted makes a difference, you likely haven't shot a rifle with or without a bayonet, as it most definitely changes POI (and there has been many attempts to mitigate those effects throughout history, if it didn't have a effect militaries would have ignored it as opposed to doing things like the M95 Stutzen bayonets with a sight mounted on the bayonet, or changing mounting techniques like the Germans removing the muzzle ring). Inexperience has nothing to do with it, the barrel harmonics, and how the bayonet is mounted does.

I can't even believe I have to try and explain this concept.

I have also read that it was common practice that when the rifles were sighted in, they were done so with the bayonets mounted. I am by no means an expert on mosins, but when I first purchased mine and took it to the range, my point of impact was way off to the left I believe it was. When I got home that day, I researched it and found the sighting in with bayonet information. The next time I took it to the range, I mounted the bayonet and wouldn't you know almost dead center.so in my humble opinion, having the bayonet mounted absolutely makes a huge difference. It may look ridiculous at the range, but it makes a huge difference at least on my rifle

[pocketshaver]

The bayonet does indeed change how these girls shoot. When you next get your re arsenaled mosin out, look at the front sight base. youll see the base mounted on the barrel has two marks cut on it.

With one corresponding notch on the actual front sight.

The top mark should line up with one on the bottom of the base, and that will most likely shoot accurately with a bayonet adjusted.

No one has ever really been able to tell me if the other notch is for "shooting without bayonet" as military doctrine was leave bayonet on until cleaning, or riding in a transport vehicle.

Or if it corresponds to a change in ammunition issued to the rifle, IE going from HEAVY ball to Light ball.