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    I'd take a guess at 0 degrees .2 minutes. though measuring .2 minutes is another thing.

    in the last post he mentions "no" silver solder, so the removable scope is still feasable.

    looking at the set up I'd say the scope is dropped into the rear mount while rotated anti clockwise 30-50°, slid forward into the front ring, then rotated back to verticle.

    it must have taken a lot of work to keep the rings collumated when made. that being said i like it better than the A5 mounts that mount to the sight protectors.
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    Rob no, please read what I had written:
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    Rob, for you I checked in detail the front ring yesterday. What I originally also had thought would be remnants of silver solder turned out to be scratches in the blueing.
    *Click me, I'm a link to the detail shot showing there are only scratches*

    Quote Originally Posted by henry r View Post
    in the last post he mentions "no" silver solder, so the removable scope is still feasable.
    looking at the set up I'd say the scope is dropped into the rear mount while rotated anti clockwise 30-50°, slid forward into the front ring, then rotated back to verticle.
    it must have taken a lot of work to keep the rings collumated when made. that being said i like it better than the A5 mounts that mount to the sight protectors.
    Thank you, that was exactly what I had meant to say. NO silver solder, so NO fixing at the front. And my personal believe is that the scope is removeable in exactly the manner you described. Sorry, I'm not a native speaker and therefore might not had explained it technically correct.


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    Rifle is a 1914 dating Enfield made No. 1 Mk.III (non *) rifle with all matching serial number (L780) on stock, nose cap, rear sight, bolt, receiver and barrel. It carries a painted Museum number ("P7") on bottom of the butt stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Promo View Post
    Rob no, please read what I had written:

    *Click me, I'm a link to the detail shot showing there are only scratches*

    Thank you, that was exactly what I had meant to say. NO silver solder, so NO fixing at the front. And my personal believe is that the scope is removeable in exactly the manner you described. Sorry, I'm not a native speaker and therefore might not had explained it technically correct.

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    Rifle is a 1914 dating Enfield made No. 1 Mk.III (non *) rifle with all matching serial number (L780) on stock, nose cap, rear sight, bolt, receiver and barrel. It carries a painted Museum number ("P7") on bottom of the butt stock.
    Thanks Georg, I got your comment about the solder. Looking at the closeup you posted those scratches look more like hacksaw blade marks, but I can't see why that would have been necessary.

    I'll have to disagree about solder though: it is entirely typical of a soldered surface and the residue of solder no doubt present has prevented rust etc. Notice the scratches inside the ring: often seen where solder has been scraped off.

    If the scope just slid into the front ring one would expect the inside to be finished similar to the inside of the rear ring. Logically there would also be some way of taking up slack similar to the rubber pads in the rear ring, would there not?

    You could try a lead testing kit to see if there is or was solder inside the front ring.

    Anyway, a remarkable survivor thanks to Mr. Robert Faris who took an interest in these things when hardly anyone else did, and now in your safe keeping. Thanks for sharing it with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by henry r View Post
    I'd take a guess at 0 degrees .2 minutes. though measuring .2 minutes is another thing.

    in the last post he mentions "no" silver solder, so the removable scope is still feasable.

    looking at the set up I'd say the scope is dropped into the rear mount while rotated anti clockwise 30-50°, slid forward into the front ring, then rotated back to verticle.

    it must have taken a lot of work to keep the rings collumated when made. that being said i like it better than the A5 mounts that mount to the sight protectors.
    A common built-in declination these days is 20 minutes of angle, albeit for longer ranges, but considering the trajectory of .303 MkVII, I doubt two minutes would be of much use and .2 minutes so little as to be pointless.

    Still, they may have thought differently then!

    As you say, the collimation in setup must have been troublesome.
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