Need help identifying the stock on my carbine

[painter777]

Prolly Old Nenel in France. Many of us have bought surplus from him.

We'll have to put a parts list together on your carbine.
When filling out we can ID part make and Type
Then you'll have a record of it.
I'll list something in the next few days for you.

You gotta learn how to post Pics...... Or BAR may go

See if there are 3 holes under Butt plate.

Later...

[browningautorifle]

You gotta learn how to post Pics...... Or BAR may go

It's OK...it's about all I can do to be constructive around here...

[jond41403]

BTW Charlie, my carbine has a Underwood round Bolt stamped.U. I too have a spare complete bolt still wrapped in oil cloth made by Underwood with the same .U. stamping. If something were to happen to the bolt in my carbine,would I be able to just unwrap my New Old Stock bolt, clean it up and put it in the carbine and expect the head spacing to be the same? Or would I have to take it to a gunsmith that has the proper gauges? I ask because I have read a million times that no matter what rifle, when you replace a bolt you have to have the headspace checked for safety. But if you have the same bolt made by the same maker, wouldn't the headspace be the same as well?

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Yes Nenel was exactly who I bought from in France. I knew it was a weird name and that is exactly it. I also bought a Winchester marked oiler from him since I could not find one in the states. A parts list sheet would be great. I would love to have that for my records.thanks for your time Charlie,Bob and Jim

[browningautorifle]

would I be able to just unwrap my New Old Stock bolt, clean it up and put it in the carbine and expect the head spacing to be the same?

They should all be acceptable within safety because of the manufacturing procedures. That was the idea. Parts should be interchangeable safely.

[jond41403]

They should all be acceptable within safety because of the manufacturing procedures. That was the idea. Parts should be interchangeable safely.

thanks Jim, that's what I was hoping

[browningautorifle]

Only if it's really beat up and very worn would I worry. And then...MAYBE...

[painter777]

jond's carbine,

Receiver: WRA 1,176,194 Spring tube
Rear sight: T2 milled adj.. marked _______
Bolt: T3 round U
Extractor: T_____ marked_____
Firing pin: T_____ marked _____
Ejector: Type _____

Barrel: Type _____ Marked _____ Date____ Other markings ______
If WRA barrel: How far from Muzzle: PW_____" W_____"
*See Note* Barrel P proof stamp: 1 or 2____ Size____ " Distance from muzzle_______"
Front sight: Type______ Marked _____
Barrel band: Type III Marked _____
Gas Piston: Marked ______
Markings on Barrel flat ________
Markings on Gas Cylinder ______
Op Slide: Type______ Marking_____

Trigger Housing: Type III Standard Products- Marked S 13-A
Hammer: Type III SG Flat Hammer (SG not confirmed). Has a Dove/Flame shaped stamp
Hammer Spring: Type II 26 coil
Trigger: Type______ Marked______
Sear: Type______ Marked_______
Safety: Plain Faced Push. Type II or Type III _____ Marked Outside or Inside_______
Magcatch: Type______ Marking on tab______ Marking on frt teeth_______

Stock: Walnut M2, Thought to be SA, Type V
Recoil Plate: If Milled-Type 2 or Type 3. Marking _________ Cast (?) Marking________
Butt Plate: Checker pattern seems to match: ______________ Marking________
Hand Guard: Walnut Type III 4 Rivet. Marked OI... Made by SE Overton for Inland
Oiler: IW
Sling: C tip ends____ D tip ends_____

Note:
** Should be filled out if Barrel IS NOT a Winchester.

Next
You can click on this link and see what a Carbine Club Data sheet looks like.
Print a few copies off.
Study it and compare your parts to the drawings. This can help you ID the Type of part you have.

https://cdn.instructables.com/F6Y/X4...NX0B.LARGE.jpg

[jond41403]

Thanks a ton Charlie, this data sheet is exactly what I need. I am blown away by the amount of help you have provided me my carbine does have a Winchester Barrel and the witness mark on the barrel does line up with the witness mark on the receiver. I don't know if that would technically mean that my Barrel is original to the receiver.I have seen other receivers out there that have more than one witness Mark but my receiver only has one witness mark.my Barrel has no date but it does have the Winchester proof Mark located on the barrel underneath where the barrel band is. Thanks again Charlie, I owe you a lot. The finish on my barrel seems to match the finish on my receiver perfectly. The finish on my carbine is not great, you can tell she has been there and done that lol

[Bruce McAskill]

If your round Underwood bolts have a hole in the bottom of then for oil and or draining, then they are post war replacements. Underwood had a contract for replacement round bolts about 1948 and 1949 time frame.

[jond41403]

If your round Underwood bolts have a hole in the bottom of then for oil and or draining, then they are post war replacements. Underwood had a contract for replacement round bolts about 1948 and 1949 time frame.

thanks Bruce, I don't believe mine has a hole but I'm not 100% sure. Next time I break it down I will look and see but if my memory serves,the only hole in the bottom of mine is where the bottom of the extractor is. Thanks for your knowledge, I did not know Underwood made round bolts in 1948 & 49.I will also have to unwrap my New Old Stock one again and see if it has a small hole too. With all the later upgrades on my carbine, it would not surprise me at all if both of my bolts in fact end up having drainage or oil holes. but as many times over the 10 years or more that I have owned my carbine and broke the bolt down for cleaning, I don't remember seeing a small hole in the bottom.