Yet another 32 mk1 scope inquiry.

[Hodgson1]

Good evening everyone. I'm luckey enough to have been given an earlyish 1941 Number 32 scope. It appears to be in reasonable condition. Yes I admit that there will be potential problems. My main concern is mounting it on to my no4 1/3Ftr.Its a fairly tidy rifle so I'm not keen of the idea of drilling holes into it.This in itself is not a great problem as I run my own milling machine etc. Would it be possible to use a top mounting rail and Ring's. Or would this mount the scope too high. I apologise for a probably often asked question but I'm new to this forum. Tia.

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[RobD]

Welcome! This is a common situation, and most people either:
1. fit repro pads and bracket, and make a replica. Fultons have these [at least, they did recently] and if you carefully read the threads on how to do it, it sounds like you have the skills to make a success of it. The overall value of a No 4(T) replica is roughly the same as the parts added together. So you wouldn't erode your investment; whereas tapping a top rail into the receiver would permanently take £££ off the value of your rifle.
2. go down the "no gunsmithing" mount, and if you choose this route, the £140 mount from Fulton's is highly regarded: Fultons of Bisley - FULTONS NO GUNSMITHING SCOPE RAILS FOR Enfield Rifles SR2

If you find the scope is too high, you could fit a £24 repro cheek piece from DS Solutions Search - cheek

Finally, before you 'scope your rifle, ask yourself whether the rifle shoots excellent groups, in the hands of a good shot? If it doesn't, then I suggest don't 'scope it. Many people think a 'scope will make the rifle more accurate. It doesn't - it just makes the target look bigger. The market is full of unsold 'scoped rifles, esp. Mosin Nagants and K98s, which simply can't group.

Rob

[waco16]

I don't suppose your Mk1 scope has the number 3273 or 1923?
Can live in hope!

[Hodgson1]

Thanks for the welcome Rob.The rifle as is shoots well. It has a crisp bore. I have a copy of Major Renolds and Robin Fulton's book regarding bedding a no4. I think bedding is the way to go first off. I would prefer a non gunsmith mount as explained above.In the end the scope might turn out a pile of ***. I'm certainly not after a tack driver. Thanks again,you have certainly put another edge to it! Which is good...

[Hodgson1]

Welcome! This is a common situation, and most people either:
1. fit repro pads and bracket, and make a replica. Fultons have these [at least, they did recently] and if you carefully read the threads on how to do it, it sounds like you have the skills to make a success of it. The overall value of a No 4(T) replica is roughly the same as the parts added together. So you wouldn't erode your investment; whereas tapping a top rail into the receiver would permanently take £££ off the value of your rifle.
2. go down the "no gunsmithing" mount, and if you choose this route, the £140 mount from Fulton's is highly regarded: Fultons of Bisley - FULTONS NO GUNSMITHING SCOPE RAILS FOR Enfield Rifles SR2

If you find the scope is too high, you could fit a £24 repro cheek piece from DS Solutions Search - cheek

Finally, before you 'scope your rifle, ask yourself whether the rifle shoots excellent groups, in the hands of a good shot? If it doesn't, then I suggest don't 'scope it. Many people think a 'scope will make the rifle more accurate. It doesn't - it just makes the target look bigger. The market is full of unsold 'scoped rifles, esp. Mosin Nagants and K98s, which simply can't group.

Rob

Thanks for the reply. See below.

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 PM ----------

I don't suppose your Mk1 scope has the number 3273 or 1923?
Can live in hope!

Sorry Waco it isn't either. It doesn't
hurt too ask. Good luck with your hunt.

[Peter Laidler]

Hodgson, there's no need to be frightened or wary of fitting your No32 to a decent No4 to make a No4T replica. But you MUST read and re-read again several times the simple instructions wot I rote some time ago and is recorded elsewhere on this forum. But make sure that you follow them to the letter or you will end up with a pile of crap. It is too easy to drill first and read next. Read FIRST, re-read SECOND, measure twice and drill once. You only get one go. But if you do you'll end up with a good replica and competitive rifle to boot

[Brian B]

I was hoping for scope # 3203. I too am dreaming!!

[Hodgson1]

Hodgson, there's no need to be frightened or wary of fitting your No32 to a decent No4 to make a No4T replica. But you MUST read and re-read again several times the simple instructions wot I rote some time ago and is recorded elsewhere on this forum. But make sure that you follow them to the letter or you will end up with a pile of crap. It is too easy to drill first and read next. Read FIRST, re-read SECOND, measure twice and drill once. You only get one go. But if you do you'll end up with a good replica and competitive rifle to boot

Thanks Peter for your reply. If I decide to go for the proper mount I will follow your directions. I have had the said rifle for a good 20 year's. So naturally I'm apprehensive.I think I'll get the scope checked over first and go with a non gunsmith mount before attacking it. Just to make sure. Thanks again for your reply.

[rayg]

Maybe if you post your scope number it would prevent a lot of folks asking if it's right for their rifle. Me included, Lol, Ray

[Hodgson1]

Maybe if you post your scope number it would prevent a lot of folks asking if it's right for their rifle. Me included, Lol, Ray

Ok Ray. Tel. Sighting /No32. Mk1./OS.446A.KL/1941 REG.No6611. Since first posting I'm no wiser to where it came in manufacturer dates.