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What about buying another rifle you have no emotional attachment to then bed and mount a repro mount for a tidy No.4(T) of your own? Then you can have 2 rifles to be proud of!
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12-26-2018 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by
jonh172
What about buying another rifle you have no emotional attachment to then bed and mount a repro mount for a tidy No.4(T) of your own? Then you can have 2 rifles to be proud of!
jonh172. I'm certainly thinking that way now.What a can of worms to open looking for a decent No.4. I don't know where you are situated. But in the the UK
you need permission too obtain another rifle. Sigh...
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Originally Posted by
Hodgson1
jonh172. I'm certainly thinking that way now.What a can of worms to open looking for a decent No.4. I don't know where you are situated. But in the the
UK
you need permission too obtain another rifle. Sigh...
Oh wow I had no idea!!
Here in Canada
you can just buy what you find, I see now why you are struggling with how to move forward.
Good luck on your quest!
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Originally Posted by
jonh172
Oh wow I had no idea!!
Here in
Canada
you can just buy what you find, I see now why you are struggling with how to move forward.
Good luck on your quest!
It's not too bad but you need a good reason to posses.To obtain a firearm certificate in the first place is a major hurdle. Due to police checks etc. Don't get me wrong this in it's self is not a bad thing,due to the every increasing nutter population. It just detracts the fun element when you're after a new toy....
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And you bleeders reckon you got it tough;
Here is W.A Firearms Branch latest folly, we now have them here asking by letter to which you have to reply with evidence what dates and what caliber rifle with its serial No. you used on range days and how many days you shot throughout the year based from club records.
The only way to keep a sleeper is to get a collectors license now (More money to the Govt coffers, cannot be shot at all big fines if your caught shooting it) and put them on that as I can see them saying you did not use that 303 at all therefore why do you really need it as they the police are not interested in whether you see it as an investment, no way they are getting my "T".
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Originally Posted by
CINDERS
And you bleeders reckon you got it tough;
Here is W.A Firearms Branch latest folly, we now have them here asking by letter to which you have to reply with evidence what dates and what caliber rifle with its serial No. you used on range days and how many days you shot throughout the year based from club records.
The only way to keep a sleeper is to get a collectors license now (More money to the Govt coffers, cannot be shot at all big fines if your caught shooting it) and put them on that as I can see them saying you did not use that 303 at all therefore why do you really need it as they the police are not interested in whether you see it as an investment, no way they are getting my "T".
Ron, Its similar here, all clubs are required to keep a record of each members visits and what he shoots etc, in most cases its up to the individual to keep his records up to date, we don't have a separate ticket for collectors pieces etc, you just state you want a ........ for part of a collection.
Its only recently the Police have started to check individual records on club visits.
Nearly all my Firearms are on a collectors slots, No4T's L42 etc, you can fire them for demonstration purposes etc but are restricted to ammo. Pistols which are not Section 1, can be held as Historic section 7.1, or 7.3......... 7.1 you can keep at home but cannot fire them (they must be produced before 1919). 7.3 you have to keep them at a designated club .........but you can fire them.
Maybe its an age thing but The days of lying in a soaked firing point trying to see the target in horizontal rain coming at you are over for me, except when I'm away with the Reserves, even then reading the weather can be an advantage.
I'll volunteer for Look out, sitting in a tower looking over the estuary drinking tea and reading the graffiti beats getting drenched and freezing your nachos off, you still have to go out and Warn folk of the Danger area though, its amazing how many folk can't recognise a big red flag and read the notice underneath.
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Originally Posted by
CINDERS
And you bleeders reckon you got it tough;
Here is W.A Firearms Branch latest folly, we now have them here asking by letter to which you have to reply with evidence what dates and what caliber rifle with its serial No. you used on range days and how many days you shot throughout the year based from club records.
The only way to keep a sleeper is to get a collectors license now (More money to the Govt coffers, cannot be shot at all big fines if your caught shooting it) and put them on that as I can see them saying you did not use that 303 at all therefore why do you really need it as they the police are not interested in whether you see it as an investment, no way they are getting my "T".
I heard Australia
was pretty tough on firearm's.But not firing a collectable weapon is pretty draconian. To many liberal/snowflakes in power.Funny how they shove a musket in some bloke's hand when their liberty is threatened. Lol
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Originally Posted by
Hodgson1
Ok Ray. Tel. Sighting /No32. Mk1./OS.446A.KL/1941 REG.No6611. Since first posting I'm no wiser to where it came in manufacturer dates.
1941 presumably. IIRC from Peter's book on the No32, that would make it the 661st scope produced by KL as their SN range began at 6000.
WW began at 0 or else 1000 - AFAIK nothing below 1000 has ever surfaced even stamped on a buttstock, and HBM began at 3000. HBM soon dropped the date from their production for some unknown reason. I once had 3057 which was dated 1941, but have never heard of another.
IIRC, no trials rifles are seen with KL SN ranges, so either they were a bit slower getting going or the need for the 1400 odd scopes required for the trials conversions was filled from WW and HBM production.
Much of the production then appears to have spend a couple of years or so sitting in a depot somewhere before H&H caught up with the supply of scopes.
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Good evening Surpmil,
I have a 1931 dated trials rifle with wrist stamped 6003. My other trials is dated 1933 with HBMC number 3234 stamped into its wrist.
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