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Towarzysz_Beagle No.4 MkI can be fired form... 12-09-2019, 03:08 AM
Alan de Enfield When you say "a good... 12-09-2019, 03:39 AM
Towarzysz_Beagle No. By good cleaning I... 12-09-2019, 03:48 AM
Alan de Enfield I would suggest that removing... 12-10-2019, 10:51 AM
Towarzysz_Beagle The forend was removed... 12-10-2019, 07:04 PM
Archmoco Some photos would help as... 12-09-2019, 01:55 PM
Scout Sniper Did you remove the trigger... 12-09-2019, 05:47 PM
Towarzysz_Beagle Thanks for the replies so... 12-09-2019, 06:04 PM
Pukka Sahib I guess there could be any... 12-09-2019, 07:04 PM
Scout Sniper These articles by Peter... 12-10-2019, 07:38 AM
Bruce_in_Oz If you have a "spare" sear,... 12-10-2019, 07:27 PM
Towarzysz_Beagle That's a good idea, I happen... 12-10-2019, 07:53 PM
Towarzysz_Beagle Late update, but you were... 01-25-2020, 10:47 PM
Bruce_in_Oz Just wondering: Has it ever... 01-26-2020, 02:49 AM
Towarzysz_Beagle Oh I'm no stranger to this.... 01-26-2020, 03:00 AM
englishman_ca If somebody stoned the bent... 01-26-2020, 12:51 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    When you say "a good cleaning" did that involve disassembly ?
    No.

    By good cleaning I meant, removed the bolt, removed the magazine, took forend off and gave it all a thorough cleaning removing all kinds of accumulated crud.

    I did not disassemble the bolt past removing it from the rifle. Nor did I disassemble any part of the sear mechanism.

    Edit: Just for clarity, I did not perform any function check on the half cock before this point. So this is the first time I've checked it's function. This issue could have existed before I picked up the rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towarzysz_Beagle View Post
    No.

    By good cleaning I meant, removed the bolt, removed the magazine, took forend off and gave it all a thorough cleaning removing all kinds of accumulated crud.

    I did not disassemble the bolt past removing it from the rifle. Nor did I disassemble any part of the sear mechanism.

    Edit: Just for clarity, I did not perform any function check on the half cock before this point. So this is the first time I've checked it's function. This issue could have existed before I picked up the rifle.

    I would suggest that removing the forend counts as disassembly.

    Everything is linked on the Enfield and moving one part can have a serious affect on the rest of the 'system'.

    Removing the forend (did you do it correctly, or just, 'pull it off'), removing the trigger etc all affects the trigger 'group'.


    I remember putting new (old) wood onto a No1 Mk3* Enfield and it would just not 'cock' something was wrong and interfering with the 'trigger group'.

    These rifles are not plug & play and the worst thing seems to be that some folk just have to take them apart - and then say "it must have been like that before I started"

    What's wrong with "if it 'aint broke don't try and fix it"
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    I would suggest that removing the forend counts as disassembly.

    Everything is linked on the Enfield and moving one part can have a serious affect on the rest of the 'system'.

    Removing the forend (did you do it correctly, or just, 'pull it off'), removing the trigger etc all affects the trigger 'group'.


    I remember putting new (old) wood onto a No1 Mk3* Enfield and it would just not 'cock' something was wrong and interfering with the 'trigger group'.

    These rifles are not plug & play and the worst thing seems to be that some folk just have to take them apart - and then say "it must have been like that before I started"

    What's wrong with "if it 'aint broke don't try and fix it"
    The forend was removed correctly. Bands removed, upper hand guards removed, then king screw, then trigger guard screw, and then gently rocked off at the receiver end. Put back together in reverse.

    I'm not a complete spud. I have owned and disassembled Enfield Riflesicon for a solid 15 years now without ever causing damage or something like this to happen.

    If I perform the test where you cock it, turn the safety on then slowly disengage the safety while repeatedly pulling the trigger to generate a slip and test the half cock it catches the sear in half cock as it should.

    I've re-examined the half bent and there appears to be some very minor wear, perhaps this could be what is allowing it to slip out of the groove if the trigger is pulled?
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