It's important that we say we know they're marked, but obviously that message isn't for us. There's a bigger picture. Sunray isn't being beaten up, I was hoping he'd engage in the discussion.
The bigger picture is about obtaining a resolution for future newb readers looking for answers when they find this site from a search engine, that they get the most concise answer without looking at additional threads anymore where it looks unresolved. It's a relevant site and thankfully we've helped one member's confusion in this thread. When new people stumble here they won't know one way or the other what's right without proper guidance.