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[Nickjc]

Thank you all so far...i appreciate the time to educate me... i looked at the .22 sticky and that was interesting as well...

I am most intrigued by the markings ! Some i do not recognize at all...or have seen.

Also were the original barrels reamed put and lined or new barrels added...?

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[Alan de Enfield]

Thank you all so far...i appreciate the time to educate me... i looked at the .22 sticky and that was interesting as well...

I am most intrigued by the markings ! Some i do not recognize at all...or have seen.

Also were the original barrels reamed put and lined or new barrels added...?

It depends exactly which model it is :

It looks like maybe a "1914 pattern Short Mk2" upgraded (modified ?) to a No2 MKIV* as the stamping fonts have obviously been applied at a different time.

If you look at the barrel muzzle, can you see any signs of a liner ?

.22 SHORT RIFLE MK III
Approved 9th August 1912 (LoC 16291) for Land Service, this rifle was made up from Converted Mk II and Mk II* SMLE rifles (which were themselves either "long" Lee-Metford or "long" Lee-Enfields converted to "short" Lees). About 11,000 conversions were done by BSA, LSA and RSAF Enfield.

.22 RF PATTERN 1914 SHORT RIFLE No. 1
A wartime trainer approved 24th May 1915 (LoC 17320) for Land Service, this rifle was also made up from Converted Mk II and Mk II* SMLE rifles (see above) by boring out the .303 barrel and inserting a .22 calibre liner inside the barrel. Conversions were done by A.G. Parker & Co. Ltd. and Wesley Richards & Co. About 427 conversions reported.

.22 RF PATTERN 1914 SHORT RIFLE No. 2
Approved 28th April 1916 (LoC 17755) for Land Service, this is the first rifle made from up from an original SMLE Mk III. Again, the .303 barrel was bored out and a .22 calibre liner inserted. Conversions were done by A.G. Parker & Co. Ltd. and Wesley Richards & Co. Some 1,743 conversions reported.

.22 RF SHORT RIFLE PATTERN 1918
Approved 10th July 1918 (LoC 21675) for Land Service, this rifle is unique in that it used a dummy .303 cartridge as a holder or conveyor for the .22 rimfire cartridge. The .22 barrel liner was soldered into place after the chamber. About 975 conversions done by W.W. Greener Co.

.22 SHORT RIFLE Mk IV
Approved 19th November 1921 (LoC 24909) for Land Service, this rifle starts out with a used SMLE Mk III or Mk III* (like the 1914 Short Rifle No. 2, above) but uses a solid, not tubed, barrel. Total number of conversions done by RSAF Enfield unknown.

RIFLE No.2 Mk IV*
Same rifle as above; just a change in nomenclature adopted in 1926. This rifle was the principal trainer for the next thirty years and was widely produced by in Britain, Australia and India. Issued in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Ireland and India, a variety of issue and ownership marks can be found on these rifles. At least 30,000 conversions made by the various factories

[Nickjc]

It depends exactly which model it is :

It looks like maybe a "1914 pattern Short Mk2" upgraded (modified ?) to a No2 MKIV* as the stamping fonts have obviously been applied at a different time.

If you look at the barrel muzzle, can you see any signs of a liner ?

22 SHORT RIFLE Mk IV
Approved 19th November 1921 (LoC 24909) for Land Service, this rifle starts out with a used SMLE Mk III or Mk III* (like the 1914 Short Rifle No. 2, above) but uses a solid, not tubed, barrel. Total number of conversions done by RSAF Enfield unknown.

I will get a closer look but as I recall I did not see any type of potential ring indicating a bore out and a liner. But will check.

Based on your info above I took a look at RSAF Enfield markings online - and some of those match those on the rifle shown above - such as:





The odd thing is that it has a what I think is, an iraqi stock disc, that has to be incorrect and added by someone over it's life.

Assuming it is incorrect, would a plain brass disc be in that place?

Also, what marking might indicate service nation use? Is that able to be done?

Stock does have arsenal repairs but no stamping's that I can see - there is also a large HV stamp right behind the rear sight wood