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    last year I was doing some online hunting for Enfield Riflesicon. It turned out that a DEMILITERIZED enfield, one that was typically given the UKicon demil process of

    1. weld firing pin hole with firing pin in fired spot and snipping protruding part of firing pin off
    2. lodge and weld a piece of rod inside the chamber

    were still safe to be turned into a safe to use 22 hornet through the use of a barrel liner, and the bolt body could be repaired and converted for the hornet.

    I ran across a little information page from the UK where an anti government/common sense law activist was discussing a new anti crime policy the british government wanted to pass in order to stop illegal guns from getting into the hands of what the UK government calls out as "racist white people". The law was supposed to be passed sometime last year, and would have made it illegal to purchase and own DEMILITERIZED guns, because the UK government thought that a criminal in the UK would spend 5-800 euros on one of these non firing guns, and someone be able to make it into a fully firing machinegun. When they could simply drive the chunnel, buy an illegal weapon for LESS in france or Germanyicon, and drive back home with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketshaver View Post
    I ran across a little information page from the UKicon where an anti government/common sense law activist was discussing a new anti crime policy the british government wanted to pass in order to stop illegal guns from getting into the hands of what the UK government calls out as "racist white people". The law was supposed to be passed sometime last year, and would have made it illegal to purchase and own DEMILITERIZED guns, because the UK government thought that a criminal in the UK would spend 5-800 euros on one of these non firing guns, and someone be able to make it into a fully firing machinegun. When they could simply drive the chunnel, buy an illegal weapon for LESS in france or Germanyicon, and drive back home with it.
    Absolute rubbish - do you have a link to that document that you found ?

    I very much doubt the Government would remain the Government for very long if the started using terms like "racist white people".
    We do not use the term 'demiliterized' we use 'deactivated' and a deactivated weapon CANNOT be un-deactivated.
    The law that came into effect in December 2019 was to actually formalise the purchase / sale / registration of Deactivated firearms - NOT to make ownership illegal.

    It sounds as if you have been reading some weird underground tabloid news-sheet.

    You may find the attached of interest showing part of what needs to be done to de-activate a firearm.
    Last edited by Alan de Enfield; 05-10-2020 at 03:12 AM.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    Absolute rubbish - do you have a link to that document that you found ?

    I very much doubt the Government would remain the Government for very long if the started using terms like "racist white people".
    We do not use the term 'demiliterized' we use 'deactivated' and a deactivated weapon CANNOT be un-deactivated.
    The law that came into effect in December 2019 was to actually formalise the purchase / sale / registration of Deactivated firearms - NOT to make ownership illegal.

    It sounds as if you have been reading some weird underground tabloid news-sheet.

    You may find the attached of interest showing part of what needs to be done to de-activate a firearm.
    The Law was brought in as an EU Directive which sought to increase the standard to which many firearms were deactivated in EU Countries , many of which were far less deactivated than UKicon Standards.

    This came about following the Charlie Hebdo attack in France when 'Deactivated' VZ58's were reactivated and used in the attack. At that time, Frenchicon standards allowed deactivation by simply drilling the front of the chamber and welding in a rod, which then allowed the firing of blanks in the firearm. This was simply removed and the holes welded up in the Charlie Hebdo guns.

    So the UK inherited the EU's knee jerk reaction and much more destructive Deact standards as a result, along with the registration and restriction on selling unless they were upgraded to the newer EU Deact standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketshaver View Post
    last year I was doing some online hunting for Enfield Riflesicon. It turned out that a DEMILITERIZED enfield, one that was typically given the UKicon demil process of

    1. weld firing pin hole with firing pin in fired spot and snipping protruding part of firing pin off
    2. lodge and weld a piece of rod inside the chamber

    were still safe to be turned into a safe to use 22 hornet through the use of a barrel liner, and the bolt body could be repaired and converted for the hornet.

    I ran across a little information page from the UK where an anti government/common sense law activist was discussing a new anti crime policy the british government wanted to pass in order to stop illegal guns from getting into the hands of what the UK government calls out as "racist white people". The law was supposed to be passed sometime last year, and would have made it illegal to purchase and own DEMILITERIZED guns, because the UK government thought that a criminal in the UK would spend 5-800 euros on one of these non firing guns, and someone be able to make it into a fully firing machinegun. When they could simply drive the chunnel, buy an illegal weapon for LESS in france or Germanyicon, and drive back home with it.
    It's not our fault/problem in the UK if some countries in continental Europe, especially eastern Europe, have lax gun laws. By UK definition a deactivated firearm that is still capable of discharging any ammunition, even blank ammunition, is not a deactivated firearm.

    The E.U. should be focusing on E.U. countries that have relaxed laws and attitudes on firearms and on securing it's borders.

    The E.U.'s interference in the UK's already high standard of deactivation just made life difficult for everyone concerned, dealers and collectors alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    It's not our fault/problem in the UK if some countries in continental Europe, especially eastern Europe, have lax gun laws. By UK definition a deactivated firearm that is still capable of discharging any ammunition, even blank ammunition, is not a deactivated firearm.

    The E.U. should be focusing on E.U. countries that have relaxed laws and attitudes on firearms and on securing it's borders.

    The E.U.'s interference in the UK's already high standard of deactivation just made life difficult for everyone concerned, dealers and collectors alike.
    if the chamber has been obliterated... would even a dumb thug in Englandicon try to use that enfiled?

    even a drunk irish ira recruit wudna be dumb enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketshaver View Post
    if the chamber has been obliterated... would even a dumb thug in Englandicon try to use that enfiled?

    even a drunk irish ira recruit wudna be dumb enough

    As I thought !
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketshaver View Post
    last year I was doing some online hunting for Enfield Riflesicon. It turned out that a DEMILITERIZED enfield, one that was typically given the UKicon demil process of

    1. weld firing pin hole with firing pin in fired spot and snipping protruding part of firing pin off
    2. lodge and weld a piece of rod inside the chamber

    were still safe to be turned into a safe to use 22 hornet through the use of a barrel liner, and the bolt body could be repaired and converted for the hornet.

    I ran across a little information page from the UK where an anti government/common sense law activist was discussing a new anti crime policy the british government wanted to pass in order to stop illegal guns from getting into the hands of what the UK government calls out as "racist white people". The law was supposed to be passed sometime last year, and would have made it illegal to purchase and own DEMILITERIZED guns, because the UK government thought that a criminal in the UK would spend 5-800 euros on one of these non firing guns, and someone be able to make it into a fully firing machinegun. When they could simply drive the chunnel, buy an illegal weapon for LESS in france or Germanyicon, and drive back home with it.

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