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K31/42 Question
Hey all, new member here. This might be a really dumb question so forgive me in advance.
I have plans to start getting an example of every major ww2 sniper. (LSR k98 build will probably be the one I attack first)
Anyways, are their glass repros for K31 sniper builds? I dont really see much talk about it. Do people repro these snipers like they do others or do you pretty much have to run the gauntlet and look at real ones for 4-5k? Thanks!
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07-23-2020 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Morrow_96
Hey all, new member here. This might be a really dumb question so forgive me in advance.
I have plans to start getting an example of every major ww2 sniper. (LSR k98 build will probably be the one I attack first)
Anyways, are their glass repros for
K31 sniper builds? I dont really see much talk about it. Do people repro these snipers like they do others or do you pretty much have to run the gauntlet and look at real ones for 4-5k? Thanks!
I went the same route in collecting WWII era snipers. Its taken me nearly 15 years, but I now have 1 of everything including a K31/43 which was my last acquisition. I've never seen or heard of a repro of this sniper or its sister the K31/42. The scope is built into the receiver on these guns, so its probably harder to try and make a repro than buying a real one.
For some of the other snipers, I started out with repros and gradually replaced what I could with the real deal. I still have several repros that I'll probably never be able to replace, because the cost of original rifles is too great for my budget. My advice is start saving your dollars. Good luck.
Last edited by Ernest T; 07-23-2020 at 10:18 PM.
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The best advice you can get when starting on a collecting venture is to buy the best reference books you can get, and study them.
Frequent forums where people who seem to know their stuff can be found and listen to what they say, with your salt cellar kept handy of course!
The caveat is that older books have often become dated due to later research, and sometimes they perpetuate errors. Some of the "coffee table" books on this subject are brimming over with errors and plagiarisms.
Making fake sniper's rifles is a minor industry, and the German Nazi-era kit is the favourite field of these fellows. I would bet there are four fakes for every real K98 "sniper" out there.
If you want get really keen, you start saving photos off the Net, logging numbers etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by
Ernest T
I went the same route in collecting WWII era snipers. Its taken me nearly 15 years, but I now have 1 of everything including a
K31/43 which was my last acquisition. I've never seen or heard of a repro of this sniper or its sister the K31/42. The scope is built into the receiver on these guns, so its probably harder to try and make a repro than buying a real one.
For some of the other snipers, I started out with repros and gradually replaced what I could with the real deal. I still have several repros that I'll probably never be able to replace, because the cost of original rifles is too great for my budget. My advice is start saving your dollars. Good luck.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...sRn8CdX2-1.jpg
Thanks for the info. I figured I’d have to get a real one. I’d love to see your collection and learn alittle about your findings while building etc...if you have anything to share.
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Originally Posted by
Ernest T
Surpmil's advice above is a good start...............start with the research first so you don't get burned. I'd go with the easier and less expensive rifles to start with like a Mosin PU sniper, which are relatively cheap compared to others, and also cheap to shoot. If you are going the repro route things are easier and cheaper. The German snipers are probably the toughest nut to crack when it comes to finding authentic ones and to know all of the nuances of collecting them. I gave up on finding a real German sniper long ago........way to expensive for me and too much work to determine which ones are original. They are frequently faked, and I've seen some very suspicious rifles being sold at the big auction houses as original. Even reproduction
K98 snipers can be fairly expensive. I've got a reproduction of a high turret K98 sniper and another reproduction K98 marksmans rifle with a ZF41 scope.
Here is a photo of my 3
Swedish snipers. All original, and like the
K31/43 very accurate shooters:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...R6XJBJX2-1.jpg
Thanks! I actually have a Tula '44 genuine sniper already. The K98, No.4 Mk.1, and USMC x8 unertl will all be repros. The 1903a4 MIGHT be real since they really arent too expensive compared to the above.
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It would be almost impossible to recreate one of these 31/42 or 43s. The rifle is ok to shoot as I have both but the optics in these are cloudy. Very hard if not impossible to repair. The scope is quite unique. Sadly the CMP won’t allow a reproduction of the Swiss snipers.
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Originally Posted by
speckles
It would be almost impossible to recreate one of these 31/42 or 43s. The rifle is ok to shoot as I have both but the optics in these are cloudy. Very hard if not impossible to repair. The scope is quite unique. Sadly the
CMP won’t allow a reproduction of the
Swiss snipers.
I’d like to learn more, why in the world wouldn’t they let you repro the optic?
And from what i understand, aren’t almost all the 31/42 or 43’s foggy these days?
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Thank You to Ernest T For This Useful Post: