When it really happens: SHTF...

[Gil Boyd]

Whoever finds one, is going to be a MULTI BILLIONAIRE..........probably the Chinese!!

[CINDERS]

Well we have Victoria going ballistic and again people not wanting to comply with legislation citing "I have commited no crime" yes you have numbie by not wearing a mask as the sign says and the Govt. Then the girl who laughed her way through a check point she was not laughing when on refusing to answer the police questions they smashed her side window and dragged her out of the car.
I thought our country folk would take this on its not B/S govt hanger 51 did it crash at Rosswell independance day the virus is real and is probably morphing as it appears there has been a human to cat infection now which to me starts to raise the question when/if it will ever affect our feathered friends good luck then controlling it.

Like some here I try to do my bit but just shake my head at those who are infected on home detention being out and about when the police check them in fact the police in Vic went around to 130 homes twice of infected people and they were out both times, this is a propensity of the highest order just plain selfish dip sticks.
I wish our PM would declare marshal law and put a curfew on then the numpties who flout the law can find the sharp end of something digging in their ribs as they are sent away for a stretch but they wont because it would seem immoral for our govt to do it, other countries in the eastern bloke do not really have human rites issues like we do.

Well those that flout the advice get infected hopefully they will wheels up and leave more space for those who heed the govt, a bloke over east was infected thought it was all a govt hoax infected his family with I think either the grandfather or grand mother dying he now regrets his actions and wants people to heed the govt advice "To bad so sad bloke you got what you deserve."
Sorry to be callous but whilst the Darwin rejects refuse to believe this is a deadly threat then it is going to take years to eradicate it and the world economies to recover.

Stay safe and upright fellows, I am the happy camper have justy got my V4S Ducati back from a service new chain & front tyre with a track day coming up next Saturday its ready to roll at speed.

[mrclark303]

Take care Ron, stay safe mate.

[Aragorn243]

Kind of amusing to watch the media scream about the dangers of hydroxychloroquine when it has been used for over 50 years with very few side affects while in the next segment demand every man woman and child be forced to take a new vaccine when it is developed for Covid 19. They never even discuss that vaccines for viruses are rare with only about 20 known safe ones in existence. These include smallpox, measles, chicken pox, influenza, hepatitis B, HPV, zoster (never heard of that), yellow fever, rabies, polio, rubella, mumps, rotavirus, and varicella.

[Surpmil]

Kind of amusing to watch the media scream about the dangers of hydroxychloroquine when it has been used for over 50 years with very few side affects while in the next segment demand every man woman and child be forced to take a new vaccine when it is developed for Covid 19. They never even discuss that vaccines for viruses are rare with only about 20 known safe ones in existence. These include smallpox, measles, chicken pox, influenza, hepatitis B, HPV, zoster (never heard of that), yellow fever, rabies, polio, rubella, mumps, rotavirus, and varicella.

Which of the gubernors was threatening to have doctors who used it de-certified? Was it that woman who wants to be Biden's running mate?

I wonder if some big pharma money could be involved there?

Whoever finds one, is going to be a MULTI BILLIONAIRE..........probably the Chinese!!

Right, as long as we can prevent people using cheap, readily available methods to treat it successfully, or least prevent people from finding out that you can.

So either China did find something cheap and readily available, or they're all dying like flies. If they were, I can't see why our media wouldn't be talking about it as it would greatly increase people's sense of urgency here.

[Aragorn243]

I had an idiot on facebook challenge my numbers this morning and in my research came up with some new ones.

The United States mortality rate is 45th in nations with over 1000 cases. Mortality rate is 3.39. This is lower than virtually every nation in Western Europe, Canada and Mexico. And the media is still trying to make us out to be a disaster zone. Some of the major ones: UK 15.22, Belgium 14.47, France 14.3, Italy 14.21, Hungary 13.29, Netherlands 11.39, Mexico 11.5, Spain 9.96, Canada 7.63, Sweden 7.16, Ireland 6.17, Switzerland 5.56, Germany 4.36.

Here, the only nation the media seems to want to imply is worse than the United States is Israel. Their rate is way down the list at .71. You can't tell me politics isn't driving this disaster now.

[Merle]

Kind of amusing to watch the media scream about the dangers of hydroxychloroquine when it has been used for over 50 years with very few side affects while in the next segment demand every man woman and child be forced to take a new vaccine when it is developed for Covid 19. They never even discuss that vaccines for viruses are rare with only about 20 known safe ones in existence. These include smallpox, measles, chicken pox, influenza, hepatitis B, HPV, zoster (never heard of that), yellow fever, rabies, polio, rubella, mumps, rotavirus, and varicella.

pretty much anything the media declares you can be sure the opposite is true...

[Ovidio]

pretty much anything the media declares you can be sure the opposite is true...

I'm starting to believe that myself...

[Patrick Chadwick]

The United States mortality rate is 45th in nations with over 1000 cases.

The following is publicly available -

Coronavirus Update (Live): 18,283,830 Cases and 693,773 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

and puts the USA in 10th place (478 deaths per million). Germany, for example, is at 110 per million (41st). Canada at 238 per million (24th.

The Worldometer Covid-19 statistics are collated by Johns Hopkins University. I see no reason to suggest that they are following a political agenda.


BTW. Pennsylvania is at 570 per million.

I don't know where you get your figures from. Please provide a link to the source of the information you quoted.

[Aragorn243]

My numbers are actual mortality rates of those with Covid 19, not deaths per million as a total of the population. The number of deaths per confirmed cases. They are updated daily. US dropped to 46th today.

COVID-19 mortality rate by country | Statista

On another note. I now know one person who has both contracted Covid 19 and died with Covid 19. I learned late last week the individual had it and she died three days later.

I have no doubts Covid 19 will be listed as cause of death.

Here's the real story. This individual was 89 years old and in failing health for some time. Three weeks ago her health deteriorated to the point relatives were advised to make their last visits and she was placed in Hospice Care. Not sure what this is called world wide but basically it is a place that more or less specializes in end of life care and making it as painless as reasonably possible. She did not have Covid 19 when she entered the facility. After being in Hospice for two weeks, they determined she had contracted Covid 19. As the incubation period is believed to be shorter than the time she was there, she contracted it at the facility which is one of the big problems we have here. The Governor and State Health Secretary infected a lot of these facilities with Covid at the early stages and apparently never figured out how to clean them up. In any case, she passed away three days after being diagnosed with Covid. This did not kill her, she was dying already. She was transferred out of the facility and moved to a nearby hospital upon being diagnosed.

Again, this is the ONLY person I personally knew who actually had Covid 19. It is only about the third individual among all my friends, family and acquaintances that are known to have Covid-19 and the first to have died from it. Now I don't have a tremendous amount of friends, family and acquaintances but enough to know this isn't as major of a problem as they are making it out to be.