Will Buyers Ever Get Smarter?

[pocketshaver]

no offense but with two companies making "factory new" m1 carbines,,,,, I don't see the point in going for a mix master and twice the cost of them. Still not sure if the new factory guns are actually worth the time and investment. But hey, its ok for people to be stupid.

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[tenOC]

no offense but with two companies making "factory new" m1 carbines,,,,, I don't see the point in going for a mix master and twice the cost of them. Still not sure if the new factory guns are actually worth the time and investment. But hey, its ok for people to be stupid.

A factory fresh Carbine for an inflated price?



That's the same as paying 6K for something you could get for 1/3 the cost. Most of us can't even understand why someone would bother. It has no history. It didn't walk the walk. It's only seen a little combat on TV. They're newly made because someone can make a profit producing them.

[W5USMC]

Speaking of S-T-B's replicas. Last August STB purchased a mixer Rockola on GB for $1250, the sellers description is below:

"This M1 Carbine is marked “ROCK-OLA” on the barrel, piston housing, receiver and
recoil plate. The front sight is marked “RIA” the stamped trigger housing is unmarked
(probably lateral support from Underwood), “A.I.” marked flat bolt, “WM” marked
hammer, “AI” marked band, “PI” marked slide, “H” within a shield marked rear sight,
unmarked two rivet handguard, “I cut” stock with faint “WRA” over “GHD” cartouche
next to the crossed cannon acceptance mark and a circled “P” on the bottom of the
grip and an un-circled “P” on its face. The sling has faint “MRT” markings and the oiler
is unmarked. It retains about 75% finish with no rust or pitting, just some blended gray
patina while the bore is a perfect mirror with strong, sharp rifling. The serial number is
1728883. There are no import marks."

Fast forward to June of this year, S-T-B sold the same now "corrected" or should I say "HUMPED" carbine for $2875, Below is STB's new description that got him a $1625 profit:

"Up for bid is a USGI WW2 M1 Carbine. It was produced probably mid part of 1943. It is in great condition with No rust or pitting and has NO IMPORT stamps or marks. The barrel is "Rock-Ola" coded on the top front. No corrosion. Clean and clear inside and measures a "@" with the muzzle erosion gauge. No bayonet lug scuff on the top. The front sight is the type 1 (milled) and coded with the "T R" on the front. The front barrel band is the early type and coded with the "M-R" on the band. The rear sight is the type 1 (flip) sight and is coded with the "BR" on the right side. There is NO stake marks around the sight. The safety is the early push type and the Magazine Catch is the type 2A and is coded with the "A-R". The
buttplate and recoil plate are both "Rock-Ola". Inside parts are all "Rock-Ola" coded. The stock is the type 2 (Highwood and oval-cut) and is coded with the "RMC" in the slingwell. It has the "RMC" in the box and the small crossed cannons under it. The wood is in excellent condition with No split or cracks, No M2-cut, No arsenal rebuild or repairs. Handguard is the type 2 and coded with the "RMC" on the bottom. Overall, a very collective WW2 M1 Carbine."

The unfortunate this is that I believe that the buyer may be a newer member of the CCC forum.

[painter777]

no offense but with two companies making "factory new" m1 carbines,,,,, I don't see the point in going for a mix master and twice the cost of them. Still not sure if the new factory guns are actually worth the time and investment. But hey, its ok for people to be stupid.

Years ago at a local gun shop my Wife came scooting over and whispered they have M1 carbines back there. Whispered as if a item had the wrong price tag on it. They were commercial carbines. I've never owned a commercial one but have worked on and test fired a few early Plainfields for friends.

For me if you can understand, we grew up getting our first firearms for Xmas at age 5. Sometimes new sometimes used but every year to come until late in my Fathers life. Not counting the arms we'd buy at the flea markets with our chore money. Or the misc collections passed down over the years from my Brother, Uncles and the Grandpa's. The ones Dad bought us came with strings attached, some we were told to never shoot and some for shooting. But hanging on the wall for as long as I can remember was Dad's War gun. We'd come in from playing War and I remember pointing it out to my young buddies who still recognize it today. It will always be the corner stone of my collection. A long story on how he got it home from the Philippines but thank God for Australians ! We never fired and never touched the War gun. It wasn't until he was sick that I pulled it out and looked in to it. A .30 cal M1 carbine was what I read and that was as much as I knew about them. As his health and memory faded I studied and researched it deeper. Long road getting beat up as a new guy on forums but I relate these USGI arms to those like my Father. And it's not a snow ball but more like an avalanche if that bug hits you. Many use and love the commercials and I figure that just puts less wear and tear on a USGI carbine, so all around its a win. The cost is what it is. But to be honest I know this hobby has cost me more than I paid for my home when purchased in 1986. I could go on and on, but I'm hoping this gives you a better understanding why I for one prefer the history and memories that these particular Milsurps provide. Built at a time when all pitched in and did without for a common cause. A truly United States of America. Wouldn't it be nice to see and feel some of that now, here in this day and age ?
Dad passed away on my Deceased Sisters Birthday Jan 30, 2017 at the age of 91. He is buried at The Middle Tennessee State Veterans Cemetery

VR,
Charlie-P777