1934 serialed rifle with an SA 11-34 barrel

[pickax]

Spend away, why wait. ignore the suggestions here for alternative searching for what you want.

[champ0608]

I don't know if this exactly answers your question, but for what its worth, I have a 1933 serial number NM 1903 with 3-34 barrel. I have no reason to doubt its the original barrel, implying that in 1933 a receiver might sit around waiting for a barrel.

Considering there's no way to prove 100% that this barrel is original to this receiver, if you're looking for a 1934 receiver with 1934 barrel, and you've been searching for years, maybe this is as close as you'll find. Maybe a little faith is all that's needed.

[Jason60chev]

I have an SRS documented 1932 Made NM with an SA 6-32 Star GAuged barrel. Also a 1937 with an SA 4-37 Star Gauged barrel that an SRS search places amongst a group of NM rifles, but no specific hit on this one.

So may who have responded place an heavy emphasis on the money and nothing else.....seeming disregarding that I have been searching years for something specific. Am not seeking anyone's approval. My main question was about the possibility of the receiver and barrel being originally mated. .

Thank to all who have replied, though.

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I have not ignored them, sir, if you had read my reply. I have been searching all of these venues for several years. Some 33/34 rifles have come up, but they have had 42 or 44 barrels installed or have been blued or otherwise, just not suitable for what I am looking for.

[Jason60chev]

Please don't forget that Rock Island and Morphy auctions have a 20% buyer's premium.

[m1903rifle]

Have searched Rock Island.....Morphy..........gunsamerica..........gu nsinternational.........all of the large vendors...........the Riverofgu s forum search engine and even Google search. I have been doing
This for several years searching for Mated receiver/barrel 1933 and 1934 rifle. CMP selling barreled receivers many years ago does not help my search. I understand what you say. A mint gun with all correct parts may not exist. And I HAVE been searching.

You should probably be looking for 1934 and 1935 National Match rifles as the original and correct 1934 and 1935 1903 A1 rifles are VERY scarce. I have been collecting M1903 rifles for over 50 years and have never seen one.

[Jason60chev]

I have an SRS documented1932 NM. I am not a collector of NM rifles that will just sit in the safe. Even those come up infrequently. Cannot even imagine that my humble 17 rifle collection is anywhere near perfect, r even correct......but the bulk of my rifles a have agreeing serial number and barrel dates. That is what I am looking for. One National Match rifle....and the cost of it........is enough. In the years that I have been looking, I have never seen a 33 or 34 NM nor even a 35, it the 35 rifle that I have and Mayberry my 37 might be NM, as they fall in a group of them in SRS. But no hits.

You should probably be looking for 1934 and 1935 National Match rifles as the original and correct 1934 and 1935 1903 A1 rifles are VERY scarce. I have been collecting M1903 rifles for over 50 years and have never seen one.

[Jason60chev]

Hello....Do you have a reference or book where you know about this? Am not challenging your statement, I'd like to know so I can read/learn more for myself. I have the Brophy book and one or two others, which probably aren't as good, but am away from home and do not have access to them. I appreciate your help.

[champ0608]

The 1934 production was somewhere around 50k, and that's quite a bit more than the adjacent years. The Army was deep into the trials for a semi-auto, and not likely buying 1903s in bulk. I don't think the Marines were buying new rifles in bulk, aside from their NM rifles. The National Matches themselves were cancelled in 1932, 33, and 34 so I wouldn't assume too many of these rifles were NM variants. That would correspond to what I've seen in researching and collecting NM rifles. So where did all of those 50k 1934 rifles end up?

[Jason60chev]

ViShooter web page shows: 1934 Jan 1 - 1441812
1935 Jan 1 - 1491532.......so, yes.....Approx 50K units.

Pats.....Receivers, barrels, stocks...just about everything.....were available for sale to the civilian market. Maybe some of those sales are absorbed into the 50K???? At least the receivers.
One would think that more detailed records might be kept. maybe they were, but lost or discarded?

[John Beard]

I will answer your question for you. Springfield Armory 1933 and 1934 production was loose barrels and loose receivers which were used to replace barrels and low number receivers turned in for overhaul. Because 1933 and 1934 barrels and receivers were not mated at the time of manufacture, serial numbers and barrel dates can be mismatched by months. In the gunbroker rifle case, the barrel date is mismatched by no more than three months, which is not unusual in the least. I will also mention that, other than a few DCM sales rifles, no National Match rifles were manufactured in 1933, 1934, and 1935.

And finally, as others have pointed out, the gunbroker rifle is substantially overpriced. However, one option approach to acquire a complete matching rifle is to buy the rifle along with another rifle with the correct stock and other parts, swap the parts around, then re-sell the leftover parts rifle to recoup some of your investment.

Good Luck! And stay safe!

J.B.