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    It's not often thought of this way but the venerable 30-06 cartridge is a pretty powerful little bomb.
    I would 100% NOT trust this rifle to contain that bomb again under any circumstance.

    1903A3s aren't that expensive. New faces are very expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcathey View Post
    It's not often thought of this way but the venerable 30-06 cartridge is a pretty powerful little bomb.
    I would 100% NOT trust this rifle to contain that bomb again under any circumstance.

    1903A3s aren't that expensive. New faces are very expensive.
    Salvaging the receiver I think would be the only must-do, all else is replacable (I remember a joke that may apply to some your thoughts about "Washington's axe" which had the handle replaced 200 years ago, and the blade replaced 100 years ago).
    The real question is whether it is possible to accurately re-heat treat the receiver to factory specs - and of course if anyone has done this. I would not take on the project for a wall hanger. I fully agree that faces are expensive - which is why the minimum standard would have to be as good as factory specs. I'm not worried about putting money in to the rifle, as long as it is indeed possible. What would be involved?
    To champ's point, the disfiguration of the receiver might make any salvage out of the question. It seems like there is a lot of material converted to scaling in the fire, making it too far gone. I'm guessing a charred stock wasn't removed, but completely burned up in the fire, which gives some idea of what the rifle went through.

    EDIT: A bit of googling in other forums turned up http://www.industrialheattreat.com/AboutUs.html, which provides heat-treating services for gunsmiths. I can think of better ways to throw away ~100+ bucks (price+shipping+ffl fee) than giving this a try - unless of course there is some optimism in the group to convince me otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    whether it is possible to accurately re-heat treat the receiver to factory specs
    With all the times that has been discussed, I've never heard any solution of anyone willing to undertake. Only conjecture.

    I wouldn't buy any part of that rifle or bayonet for any reason. It's completely cooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    With all the times that has been discussed, I've never heard any solution of anyone willing to undertake. Only conjecture.
    Well, wishful thinking together with beer have produced worse ideas
    The other evening, beer in hand, I tried to explain the situation to my wife as "if it can't be done, I'll at least have one really cool paper weight"...to which the reply was that I didn't need another paper weight, no way in hell it could be taken to the office as a cool conversation paper weight in today's world, and I could, after all, instead spend the $100+ after shipping and transfer fee (yep, still requires ffl) on good parts to complete the other worn out milsurps sitting in my shop which have a much better chance at new life.
    I've taken her advice and passed on the paperweight.

    To brownings' point, I have read a great deal of internet speculation about re-heat treating - none of course as cordial and well mannered as here. The discussion is typically around whether a low numbered receiver can be treated, and then religious points of view taking either side or the middle. I'll leave the question of metallurgy and what is possible to the science books. It was nice to find that there is at least one company out there can properly heat-treat gun metals as a service. I'm sure they know what they are doing, which is why they have been able to make a business of it.

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