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12-15-2020 10:19 AM
#1141
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Just had a good friend, a Colour Sergeant in The Parachute Regiment whose girlfriend lives up in the Midlands. On leave in their bubble, she's a school teacher, and promptly went down with COVID and gave it to him. I put a welfare check into him yesterday, week three of being back in barracks locked down on his own, changing the sheets daily cos they were soaked, and fed from afar by deliveries from his peers, his words to me were:
"You wouldn't wish this on your enemies".
He as an example is like a preverbial Butchers Dog, he is extremely fit, and could take on the World Boxing Champion, and it wiped him out, and his girlfriend was a lot worse. They are getting through now but it is a hell hole, if it hits a certain group of people. When you see some go through it after just a day or so, I say good luck to them, but then don't flout the scientific rules as we have to listen to experts NOT Politicians, who afterall only do their bidding!!
'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
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12-15-2020 11:19 AM
#1142
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If the "experts" could only agree, and if they and the relevant authorities would use every reasonable method to reduce transmission.
For example it's been proven that raising humidity in a confined spaces causes airborne virus particles to bond to the tiny water droplets and drop out of the air. The efficacy of this is striking, but is it being done? Are centrally heated/cooled buildings resetting their air conditioning systems to increase humidity to over 45% when this process kicks in? Not that I've heard of.
Are UV light systems being retro-fitted where not already present to sterilize building airflows?
There's mumbling about "is it being spread through air conditioning systems?"; well, we've known for decades about "sick building syndrome" so should anyone be surprised!? 
You'd think that if they were so interested in reducing transmission, public health authorities would be all over this.
When I last looked months ago, there were over 1500 recognized strains; how many are there now?
When Dr. Fauci publicly states he is taking Vit. C and D himself, why isn't it being recommended for everyone?
Anyway...the info is only keystrokes away, for those that want to look.
“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same. 
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12-15-2020 12:00 PM
#1143
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I know people who have suffered great loss because of this disease. I think there is a difference between "flouting" and questioning. I indeed wear a mask when in public and around others as a respectful person. I also have every reason to question. We were instructed that masks were stupid in the beginning, then the same officials say they are the cure for the pandemic. So, we were either lied to in the beginning, or we are being lied to about it now - I admit I don't know which (yet). I say lied because we certainly knew and understood the mode of transmission all along from the beginning.
My beef isn't really with the rules - it's with the lack of law and equal application thereof. Something as severe as confiscation of liberty needs to happen by passing a law, not by a years worth of edicts unequally directed, applied, and enforced. It needs the will of the people.

Originally Posted by
Surpmil
the info is only keystrokes away, for those that want to look.
Curious. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html combines hospitalization and death into "PIC" pneumonia, influenza, covid. The "influenza like illness" is flatlined. Shouldn't it be going up with the annual flue season? Is it possible that we aren't confident enough in the underlying data to differentiate? PIC deaths and hospitalizations did spike, but have been going down over the last 3 weeks. What is the real situation for just COVID? Why are some states withholding certain data and releasing others?
...for all the Thanksgiving and Christmas police...correlation is not the same as causation.
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12-15-2020 01:46 PM
#1144
Legacy Member
Diseases cured and all but eliminated by vaccines...
Tetanus
Hepatitis B
Hepatitis A
Rubella
Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b)
Measles
Pertussis
Streptococcus pneumoniae
Rotavirus
Mumps
Chickenpox
Diphtheria
Polio
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12-15-2020 02:06 PM
#1145
Contributing Member
According to the French
News; the fact that most people are following stricter hygene rules has had a beneficial effect on reducing other illness'.
Usually in France at this time of year, there is always a lot of "Gastro enterite" ; passed on by all the "bisous" and hand shakes. This year, there's hardly any at all. Which is good news because it nearly always get's me!
as for Covid; it seems to affect people in different ways; so definitely best avoided if possible.
you just don't know how resilient you are until you've got it; so probably better to do what's necessary to avoid it.
Stay safe!
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12-15-2020 03:31 PM
#1146
Contributing Member
Needed a wake up call on hygiene most certainly across the world. Think the last time you were in a male public toilet at motorway services and the amount of lads that didn't wash their hands afterwards, even after leaving cubicles, and went on to eat food...................
'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
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12-15-2020 04:29 PM
#1147
Legacy Member

Originally Posted by
Atticus Thraxx
America isn’t about what you get. It’s about what you give.
As evidenced by my group of friends who helped me along during my two week fight (as I live alone with no built in support).
Thanks !
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12-15-2020 05:16 PM
#1148

Originally Posted by
Gil Boyd
lads that didn't wash their hands afterwards, even after leaving cubicles, and went on to eat food.................

Or, returned to the kitchen..................
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12-15-2020 05:43 PM
#1149
Contributing Member

Originally Posted by
oldpaul
Diseases cured and all but eliminated by vaccines...
Covid isn't going to be cured by a vaccine. At best, it's going to require an annual shot and they hope they get the correct strain, at worst, nothing is going to change and this becomes the new norm, it eliminates a lot of people over a few years and then resistance is built up until it mutates again. Just the nature of the beast. This is a variation of the common cold more than anything else and they never came up with a good treatment for that.
All I'm hearing from the media is how wonderful this vaccine is but it really isn't. Doesn't prevent you from getting it, carrying it or spreading it
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Originally Posted by
Surpmil
When I last looked months ago, there were over 1500 recognized strains; how many are there now?
I'm only aware of three, not sure where you are getting your numbers. There are various strains of Covid, at least 7 of which affect humans and many more that affect animals but Covid 19 only has three known strains and one was just recognized last week. It is slow to mutate which is a good thing.
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12-16-2020 03:35 PM
#1150
Contributing Member
We are currently experiencing what could potentially be our biggest snow storm in several years.

This is our Governor Wolf. He is not well liked these days by a substantial portion of the population. He did not really say this but people are getting tired of the things he is saying.
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