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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    We hear over the news the U.S health system is near collapse as are the medical staff with so many americans afflicted with the damn thing I really feel for you guys over there and the U.K.
    No need to feel bad for us. We aren't the ones being locked in our home areas. You're getting very bad information, probably to keep you from complaining.

    Life here is pretty much normal with two basic exceptions, you have to wear a mask whenever you go into a store and a lot of restaurants, and other entertainment facilities are closed down.

    There is no near collapse of the health care system, in fact, a lot of nurses and doctors have been laid off as the politicians have decided that hospitals can no longer do non-emergency procedures so the space is available for the flood of covid patients that never materialize.

    The media likes to find one hospital somewhere that is near capacity and go there and find all the nurses and staff that like to bitch and moan about everything and then portray it as normal when it isn't. Hospital in the next county has plenty of space, etc and the nurses there will tell you they have Covid patients but nothing out of the ordinary.

    It's all politics, science isn't determining anything. You can easily see here the state of the US hospitals. No where near capacity, operating at 10-30% in most cases. COVID-19 hospitalizations by state: Dec. 23

    And none of these show any emergency hospitals because there are none currently. Capacity can be nearly doubled if needed. Philadelphia for example has a full hospital just sitting there still fully equipped because it recently shut down and they have done nothing with it to prepare for anything.
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    How interesting this media thing is. They can cause panic in an instant with mis-information.
    During WW1 and the Spanish Flu pandemic that killed millions around the world as the soldiers all returned home from the trenches.................the media had very little to say, as they probably didn't have the experst sat around connected by email and Sat phones. It was proper journalism then, placed on paper as hardly anybody could afford a radio then.

    We have several reporters in the UKicon mostly with the BBC because they have a glut of them paid at high rates who thing they can ramp stories up like COVID to place uncertainty in the heads of the public. Laura Keunsberg and Kate Adie as an example.

    Time they were disbanded in my view. The only TV network in the world that makes our allies pay for their TV licence when they come over here to serve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    the Spanish Flu pandemic that killed millions around the world as the soldiers all returned home from the trenches.................the media had very little to say, as they probably didn't have the experst sat around connected by email and Sat phones
    And there were riots over mask laws and lockdowns back then. Try telling that true story and you are likely to get banned from the internet for "fake news misinformation".
    My son had to do a covid related school project...it was to put together an informative website. He chose to go the historical route, comparing to other pandemics. Over several weeks he would find something - like the riot stories, and then the next day go to incorporate it and it would be gone...removed from the internet. I had a lot of fun showing him the wonders of the wayback machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    No need to feel bad for us. We aren't the ones being locked in our home areas. You're getting very bad information, probably to keep you from complaining.

    Life here is pretty much normal with two basic exceptions, you have to wear a mask whenever you go into a store and a lot of restaurants, and other entertainment facilities are closed down.

    There is no near collapse of the health care system, in fact, a lot of nurses and doctors have been laid off as the politicians have decided that hospitals can no longer do non-emergency procedures so the space is available for the flood of covid patients that never materialize.

    The media likes to find one hospital somewhere that is near capacity and go there and find all the nurses and staff that like to bitch and moan about everything and then portray it as normal when it isn't. Hospital in the next county has plenty of space, etc and the nurses there will tell you they have Covid patients but nothing out of the ordinary.

    It's all politics, science isn't determining anything. You can easily see here the state of the US hospitals. No where near capacity, operating at 10-30% in most cases. COVID-19 hospitalizations by state: Dec. 23

    And none of these show any emergency hospitals because there are none currently. Capacity can be nearly doubled if needed. Philadelphia for example has a full hospital just sitting there still fully equipped because it recently shut down and they have done nothing with it to prepare for anything.
    Nailed it.....

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