USGI Original M1 Carbine Sling WW2 Army 100% S.M. Co. 1944 original ?

[painter777]

GIBOB, I see all your slings Snaps and Finial hardware is Brass. Never was important to me about the year as long as I knew the sling is real. I bought Dozens and Dozens pre- 2010 that were blackened steel, cheap like under $35 each because not everyone knew they used steel while trying to conserve brass. My best score was that bulk purchase from the I believe they were called The Museum of the Pacific in Texas when they were clearing out excess stock.
GIBOB You might be able to clean that Swivel stained area off the fabric. But I'd fear you'd pull some of the original ink markings off.... I sure wouldn't chance it. Unless I knew I had a Real sling with Fake markings added.

Remember Mr. Ricca said "There are Fake slings with Fake markings and there are Real slings with Fake markings"

On the what appears to be a 1948 dated sling (pictured above) the partial views of the Keeper make it look like a Repro / post War Keeper.

I mean really......... How hard would it be to get a Ink Stamp Pad made up to put the S.M. Co. markings on a real or fake sling ?

I remember having Ink Stamps for Deposits, Paid in Full for receipts and made up with the our Company name and logo on them from a Stamp shop.
I gave them a print off of the logo and they inverted (?) it and made them up in the size I needed. I remember the guy telling me they could make up anything I needed.
We'd stamp below the lower hinge on the garage entry doors, then varnish over it. Or just over the finish paint if it wasn't a varnished finish.
We 'tagged' many of the other trades Gang boxes (tool boxes) with our special stamp that had the same on it.. our company name, outreached arm/hand with a spray gun spraying and below a Skull and Cross Bones with Horns below said - Painters From H3LL

I've also seen some stocks over the years that may have had these type Ink Stamps as Crossed Cannons Stamps with no impression in the wood. Maybe from Harrisons Template (?)

And numbers and letters. My Wife contacted a Ebay seller with the number / letter steel stamps. She was wanting to mark my Daughters Show Saddles on the inside for identification purposes. Trust me when I say Show Saddles and Tack can be very expensive. She asked a few questions about size and font. The seller replied he could make up any thing she needed to include 1 piece stamps that could spell out my Daughters full 1st and last name. For Custom orders he just needed a print out to scale.

So how hard would it be to get a W-S'G' or Sq / Block S stamp if you had Bad intentions ??

I've purchased 2 Repro Northridge Swivels over the last few years. 1 to replace a lost KV-S'G' and just ordered another for a spare.
The day will come the Repros will be considered real and your real ones Fake.
Larsons book and examples isn't helping.
I bought a Repro sling from a Company that stated they were made on the original machines and Exactly matched WWII slings. A Side X Side comparison I can not tell the difference.... except for the smell. Soon we won't know when someone develops 'Old Web Gear Cologne' !

I'm at the point I'll pay too much for real. I'm tired of bargain hunting for 10 - 12+ years.
Tough being Honest but safer for me. I don't need anymore 'Checks' by my name in the Good Book Above !

P.S. I see What a Country is out of stock on real GI C tips. Their price had jumped up to $89.95 a while back. I think his name is Damon and when he gets a chance he'll stock more, but they may go up again. I remember 1st buying these for $39.95 limit 2 and free ship. Week later I'd order again and again. Sorta dumb because I don't display with slings installed and only use D tips on my shooter carbines.

Sorry so long,

---------- Post added at 07:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:11 PM ----------

It might just be correct

Tom,
I believe the link you provided IS a real one.
The past auction I pictured from the same seller....... not convinced it was / is real

Added to clear any confusion my long reply may have caused.

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[W5USMC]

Real slings with Fake markings

That o is awful large on that "1948" sling, my guess a fake marking, and once you sell one with a fake marking all others up for sale become suspect. I personally would not buy anything from that seller.

[USGI]

P.S. I see What a Country is out of stock on real GI C tips. Their price had jumped up to $89.95 a while back. I think his name is Damon and when he gets a chance he'll stock more, but they may go up again. I remember 1st buying these for $39.95 limit 2 and free ship. Week later I'd order again and again. Sorta dumb because I don't display with slings installed and only use D tips on my shooter carbines.

Charlie, I'd been wanting to get back here and comment on that sling I pictured in post #3 above. That one came from Damon at WAC about 10 years ago. The price then was $44.95. Later buys were at $59.95 and $69.95 - always have had good, friendly, and fast service from them. The last time I ordered slings (one was a "D tip") two of them came wrapped in heavy weight aluminum foil and looked like they had never been opened. Have you ever seen them packaged that way? I figured they may have purchased them directly out of surplus storage somewhere - the one "C tip" in the foil is about 3-1/2" shorter overall length than the SM.Co. pictured in post #3.

I've bought (3) stocks from them, too. The latest is that OI Type 3 that you OK'd for me as "won't last long at that price" a couple years ago. I ordered that one over the phone and the guy was telling me a lot about the company, etc. He turned out to be the owner, Yashi - a heck of a nice guy, I thought. I asked him about Damon, but can't remember now whether he said he was still there, or not.

FYI, I got the Ford out and took it for a spin yesterday. I can't imagine it with a "crate motor" and automatic trans. Glad it's safe here in my own garage - would hate to see it Bubba'd! - Bob

[painter777]

would hate to see it Bubba'd!

In the order I built them

Ford 1957 panel wagon in a Pontiac Forest Green with baby moons and Mickey Thompsons. Original body lines and bumpers. Chevy 350 3 speed column shift tied to a Saginaw IIRC.

1954 Dodge 1/2 ton Step Side with bat wing hood, in another Pontiac color (A Teal) that you'd find on their mid 60's Lemans and Tempest. Motor out of a Dodge Coronet, Super Red Ram Wedge with 2 4 barrel Carters setting off set over the valve covers (Pre Hemi). 1-1/2 ton International 4 speed tranny with a mud gear that would pull your house off it's foundation.

1962 Chevy Step Side brought up from Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Side spare tire carrier all original exterior. 4 speed Hurst tied to a 409 and IIRC 3.73 rear gear.

All brakes were upgraded for the time, power steering added along with generator look, but Alternator inside conversion.

I would have LOVED to chain up to your straight cut Coaster !!


Sold them all off to race 10' Hydro boats. Outboard Max 65hp class. GVW Invaders. Fixed planers. Quite the Rush running 65hp up and down rivers in a 10' boat with maybe 1 1/2' foot in the water on plane. Always stuck with the long shaft late 70's John-Rudes. Spent some afternoons stuck on top of the bank after missing a curve and many sleepless nights at a hotel parking lot rebuilding lower units.

Bubba that truck...... Keep dancing on that trigger Bob