Gun show carbines

[DaveHH]

Dave, a lot of us gave you a hard time about it because you used to rant in a way to put other people down in their enjoyment of the hobby, so we gave it back to you.
It was earned.

You got that right. I was a Royal Pain in the A$$ about part swapping. It finally got through my thick skull that these people were just doing what they wanted with their possessions. I predicted that all of these corrected guns would someday be out on the market with no one the wiser. The standard reply was " When I sell them, I'll put all of the old stuff back on them". Well that didn't happen, but it's none of my business anyway.

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[tenOC]

You got that right. I was a Royal Pain in the A$$ about part swapping. It finally got through my thick skull that these people were just doing what they wanted with their possessions. I predicted that all of these corrected guns would someday be out on the market with no one the wiser. The standard reply was " When I sell them, I'll put all of the old stuff back on them". Well that didn't happen, but it's none of my business anyway.

Honestly, I didn't believe the barrel proof was legit at the same time. And today, there is still so much I and we don't know. On swapping, it was my goal to drive people into the open doing it, instead of driving them into the shadows hiding it. We still figure out who the people doing it are, or at least which Carbines are worked over regardless of how open they are about it's condition when they got it.
After all this time I don't build much anymore. There are a few pieces that just need a stock or something but they're unique enough that I leave the probable wrong stock on them.

I have IP stuff in mid project and an M1A1 or 2. Still have an S'G' receiver from GB that has flip staking I bought to build. It's a lost cause, probably.

[DaveHH]

Honestly, I didn't believe the barrel proof was legit at the same time.

You're in good company because BQ hadn't seen one either. Marty looked at it more logically: Why would an obviously Winchester made barrel on a Winchester carbine have some honkie looking fake ordnance stamp? No stamp at all was better than that one. Marty was right and they came out of the woodwork. He knew that there were several different dies in use all different in some slight way, why not another? He worked with me on a Winchester he had that was close, maybe 100 guns off mine and it was quite a bit different. When there are 1000 guns a day being built, chances are real good that lots of people are doing a lot of different things. And hundreds of thousands of parts in those bins.

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When I started this thread I had high hopes of correcting one of my two carbines back to it's org. WW-2 configuration, kinda like a before and after, BUT, when I started looking for the org. parts it would take to do this right and the asking price: Type 1 barrel band 175-$250, org. flip sight $200, front sight $90- $100 plus the tools required: front sight remove and install $50, rear sight remove and install $50 and that's not counting the small items like mag. release and safety.

I looked at it in another way: Why remove later much improved parts to be replaced with parts that don't work as well and may be worn out? I share your views on the carbine. I recall always seeing the same VC tax collector in his hammock by the bridge. With his carbine. He'd wave to us and we'd wave back. A lighter more handy weapon is hard to find. Love your split window.

[browningautorifle]

I looked at it in another way: Why remove later much improved parts to be replaced with parts that don't work as well and may be worn out?

Valid point, but much overlooked or un-thought of by collectors.