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painter777 .50 Cal SLAP Rd Explosion... 05-17-2021, 03:44 PM
jond41403 Yes, this was terrible, he... 05-17-2021, 05:00 PM
painter777 JD, Boy you got that right,... 05-17-2021, 05:21 PM
old tanker I have a different take. M903... 05-17-2021, 08:12 PM
browningautorifle He later stated it was OLD... 05-17-2021, 11:20 PM
old tanker 50 caliber SLAP ammunition... 05-18-2021, 03:52 PM
browningautorifle I can tell you lots. We... 05-18-2021, 04:21 PM
old tanker You and the guys issuing... 05-18-2021, 07:49 PM
ssgross I gathered from the video and... 05-18-2021, 04:48 PM
painter777 I remember this. Not just... 05-18-2021, 09:52 PM
Surpmil Interesting case. The... 05-19-2021, 12:33 AM
jond41403 Correct, it is my... 05-17-2021, 09:39 PM
MSW2 I am not a fan of shooting... 05-18-2021, 03:23 AM
Ovidio Also my opinion. I don't... 05-18-2021, 04:13 AM
ssgross Absolutely...I don't shoot... 05-18-2021, 09:29 AM
Ovidio Yep. That thing with good eye... 05-18-2021, 10:08 AM
MSW2 You can get safety glasses... 05-18-2021, 10:20 AM
ssgross I use ess suppressor glasses.... 05-18-2021, 12:23 PM
usabaker My son complained about them... 05-19-2021, 12:37 PM
Ovidio I was starting to think about... 05-18-2021, 10:50 AM
MSW2 You may. Vaal Triangle,... 05-18-2021, 12:29 PM
Ovidio Just south of Joburg. I hope... 05-18-2021, 04:54 PM
Gilevi We had some in iraq 2005. We... 05-18-2021, 07:04 PM
MSW2 Plastic sabot. Perhaps it... 05-19-2021, 12:36 AM
Ovidio Thamks MSW2. I’ll reach out... 05-19-2021, 01:20 AM
Daan Kemp Looking forward to your visit... 05-19-2021, 02:18 AM
CINDERS I saw an article the other... 05-19-2021, 09:59 AM
browningautorifle Me either. Easy to do. 05-19-2021, 12:20 PM
old tanker Easy to do, and it was a... 05-19-2021, 08:23 PM
Ovidio That would be plain... 05-19-2021, 12:32 PM
browningautorifle Love the M3 at 3:20 with a... 05-20-2021, 12:39 AM
painter777 Really Appreciate the... 05-21-2021, 12:03 PM
Guest OMG, that was terrible 06-07-2021, 12:23 PM
jond41403 All the slap rounds I own are... 06-07-2021, 03:24 PM
browningautorifle I'll bet if we looked at his... 06-07-2021, 03:45 PM
usabaker I bet if you sent him a... 06-07-2021, 06:28 PM
jond41403 Even though I would never... 06-07-2021, 08:21 PM
Ovidio I'd hang some kind of warning... 06-08-2021, 02:38 AM
bombdoc As an Ammo Tech, my suspicion... 06-08-2021, 10:27 AM
browningautorifle Good to see you finally here... 06-08-2021, 03:50 PM
old tanker I've long been retired, so no... 06-08-2021, 05:13 PM
rcathey Does anyone know what plastic... 06-08-2021, 05:22 PM
jond41403 Only the older slap rounds... 06-08-2021, 06:40 PM
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    I have a different take. M903 SLAP was developed to increase the armor defeating capability of the M2 machinegun. While it was adopted in the mid-80's, it was not commonly fired in training, and perhaps it was different in the Marine Corps. No one I have talked to in the Army remembers having any issued during the Gulf War.

    Policy changes concerning the disposal of surplus ammunition have gone back and forth, currently only ammunition useful to other government agencies escapes DEMIL.

    Even the rules on demilitarization have changed. Folks may remember companies which pulled down ammo and reloaded it. Then DoD required the brass to be crushed.

    This makes the pedigree of the ammunition he was shooting very suspect.

    Was it ammo left over after training and some GI stuck a few rounds in his pocket for souvenirs?

    Was it ammunition scheduled for destruction and purloined from or by a contractor? If that is the case, it is possible the ammo being destroyed was a "bad lot" meaning the Army had condemned it as unsafe.

    Was it ammo reloaded using pull down components and who knows what data?

    The few rounds he shot were inconsistent. One exhibited an excessive amount of flash before the accident round. My view is IF it was over pressure ammunition it's unlikely a Barrett or a Browning would have fared any better than the Serbu did.

    As a tanker I fired plenty of sabot ammo through tank guns. Most of those guns, such as the US M68 105mm gun lack muzzle brakes. During WW2 the Britishicon 17 pounder and the US 90mm had accuracy problems caused by muzzle brakes interfering with the sabots coming off cleanly. (Seems like he was having similar troubles with flyers?)

    It might be interesting to take a good look at the muzzle brake on the Serbu. Did the "petals" of the sabot beginning to touch the brake rather than coming off cleanly upon exit like they would on a "bare" muzzle? Is it possible that a sabot or pieces of it got caught in the slots of the muzzle brake and in effect become a bore obstruction?

    Finally, SLAP was approved for use the M2 machine gun but NOT the M85, with its tulip shaped prong style flash suppressor.



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