Sirius Dog Sled Patrol m1917

[Mbechmann]

Well, settled in on the lake in Maine, catching up on this thread.
Very interesting to read about the RGTC rifles and their modifications. The M1 carbine sight looks quite well done.

Yea that sight does look good. Would be interesting to shoot one of those.

You do not show front sight nor rear sight with your rifle that you have posted in here, nor how it was installed or machined. Please share pictures of this.

Within how were the RGTC rifles prepared for scopes?

The rifles that Bisgaard & Nielsen were selling all had the rear sight bases milled off, no provision for a M1 sight such as in your link, and all had an emergency rear sight fitted to the barrel shank. B&N claimed they come from the RGTC.

Another member in here who is also from Denmark said the following:

Link to this post here: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....l=1#post339206

So basically he is saying the opposite of you. According to him the rifles from the Sirius Patrol still had the original sights, whereas those which had the cut off rear sights (not even speaking of the replacment of it with a M1 Carbine rear sight) were modified by the RGTC for hunters in Greenland and therefore non official modifications.

First, I think the reason why he is saying this, is because he doesnt speak Danish. What I have done, is to compile ALL the Danish info as well as the info in English. When I found another contact/source, I contacted those asking for more info. Through that, I have been talking to the guy that handled these rifles back than. Thats the main source for most of my info and the info I did have prior to this, he confirmed it.
Add to that, that there is an article on rifleman about these, written in Danish where another Danish guy mentions this as well. The rifleman info is from 2020, so this is fairly recent. All in all, I am sorry, but he is wrong about this.

Secondly, the scopes. The Bisgaard & Nielsen rifles are the RGTC rifles, that were milled down on the rear sight yes. But thats not all. I have seen 2 close up pictures of these rifles that were welded on the inside, so I think they were widened as well. As I mentioned earlier, I dont have a RGTC rifle, so I cant compare side by side. I am going on info from the guy who handled this - and he his connection with the company in Aalborg that did this.
What is interesting here is that M1 sight... Thats a company here in Denmark that are doing that change right now. But they can ONLY do it on RGTC rifles (called Greenlandic rifles here in Denmark). I dont know exactly why that is, but I would think its because its wider than normal m1917 rear sights. I have reached out to that company to find out what it is that they do exactly to fit the M1 sight on it.

Thirdly, the company that milled the Sirius rifles is a different company than the RGTC rifles. The Sirius ones were done at Otterup/Schultz Larsen. This is also confirmed by 2 different sources here in Denmark.

The biggest difference on the sights, is actually the front sight. 85000 rifles in Denmark were changed to the roller pin front sight in December 1960. The RGTC rifles were shipped to Greenland in 1961, so they were ALL roller pin. Now, if you do the math, you will realize that 85000 changed rifles... well the numbers ONLY line up if it was ALL that was changed. Denmark received 38395 from Canada + 23000 from Norway + spare barrels. Denmark didnt receive any rifles from anywhere else. So it had to be ALL Danish rifles and spare barrels that was in Denmark on December 1960 that were changed to roller pin front sight. This is also confirmed here.

Mine has the old sight, so it had to have been shipped prior to the sight change. The only rifles that was shipped prior to that, was the 40 Sirius rifles and they were shipped July 12th 1960. This is also confirmed by several different sources here in Denmark.

As for pictures. For some reason this site changed over to mobile site, so I couldnt get it back to normal again so I could upload pictures. Sorry for the delay.

All in all, I hope this clears up things a bit more.