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[eb in oregon]

Just because it has an M2 stock doesn't mean it was originally an M2 carbine. I've purchased several carbines that came with an M2 stock.

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[arbo34]

Just because it has an M2 stock doesn't mean it was originally an M2 carbine. I've purchased several carbines that came with an M2 stock.

I think what they are saying is that serial number should say “U.S. carbine cal .30 M2” and it looks like the m2 was removed.

[browningautorifle]

that serial number

That's exactly what was just said. The serial range is M2. The stock doesn't mean squat.

[eb in oregon]

I think what they are saying is that serial number should say “U.S. carbine cal .30 M2” and it looks like the m2 was removed.

You are correct. I just checked out Bruce Canfield's work and that serial number does fall within the serial number range (7,369,661 to 8,069,660) of the Inland produced M2. I should have looked first. Sad that the laws restrict something merely based on a stamped number.

[tenOC]

It's a ignorant ruling by an agency that can't critically reason.
Scrub the marking off and it's not an M2. Simple.

[rcathey]

It's a ignorant ruling by an agency that can't critically reason.
Scrub the marking off and it's not an M2. Simple.

And they’ll be free to reason that you’ve now attempted to deface the markings on, what they perceive as, a machine gun.

Pretty poor advice.

[tenOC]

And they’ll be free to reason that you’ve now attempted to deface the markings on, what they perceive as, a machine gun.
Pretty poor advice.

There's no advice. Read it again, what it actually says. If you don't get it that time, just move on.

[eb in oregon]

"It's a ignorant ruling by an agency that can't critically reason.
Scrub the marking off and it's not an M2. Simple."

There's no advice. Read it again, what it actually says. If you don't get it that time, just move on.

Actually you did as you suggested that someone with an M2 receiver merely had to scrub that stamping off and voilà it's no longer an M2. That you don't think that's advice doesn't change that it actually is. And scrubbed or not stamping compresses metal and by the application of the proper procedure that M2 can be read and someone would go to jail or pay a mighty big fine. If you sir want to play games with the ATF have at it but making suggestions to others to do so is pretty poor thinking.

[painter777]

It's a ignorant ruling by an agency that can't critically reason.

Fully Agree,
Ridiculous that a Import mark has to be applied. Can a Import Stamp be tracked, keep that arm from being stolen, illegally sold or not be involved in a crime?
When you figure in that both the Exporter and Importer have to Document the Serial numbers to do the deal.
I believe the SN's are included on the Bill of Laden......... I think.
Then think about where they want the Import Stamp......... On the barrel. Same barrel that can be Removed and Replaced.

Newscotlander made a great point years back about a grey area with the Inland X - XG Series Presentations. Some were assembled as M1 Carbines just using a M2 stamped receiver but having none of the internal parts found in a factory built M2. So the Carbine was manufactured as a M1 with a M2 stamped receiver. There should be a 'loophole' that allows one to own this today, with it not being considered a Machine Gun. This is from memory of his past post, far from being verbatim.

And to add to the ridiculous, you can go on most any auction sight and purchase the M2 parts and assemble your own Machine gun in a M1 stamped receiver.

Side Note About the Alphabet Boys:
Over the years I've had 2 visits, one being a unannounced return visit 2 days after the initial visit from the Batf boys, because they had received a 'Report'. The 2nd visit they were wanting a closer view of something they had noticed on the 1st visit. Not sure what they thought it was, or if they thought they'd catch me off guard, but it is a Pellet rifle pimped out to look like a sniper rifle tucked in a corner. Note here to keep your curtains drawn shut in the evening if you have a ground level room used for your display rifles etc. Especially when you have a new Anti-gun, PETA, Tree hugging neighbor move in next to you. It also didn't help when Fed Ex on 2 separate occasions left my Powder orders on her porch with the big boxes brightly labelled with the orange 'EXPLOSIVES' tags. She called 911 in fear for her life, to have them removed. Maybe she expected the Bomb Squad to arrive?
About a year later a visit from the Fbi boys doing a background check because of my Daughters Security clearance. Months later while in the area they stopped back by to admire the collection, had coffee and talked Milsurps... so go figure. I actually purchased a W code Underwood from one of their friends later on.

A Recall Gun,
On GB yesterday I came across a Rossi .357 revolver currently being offered. I had bought my son one a few years ago for his Birthday. We shot it one time. Later while on the Taurus Forum I found many of these were being recalled. Some... depending on the model and letter prefix before the serial number failed the drop test. A Police Officer dropped his back up from a ankle holster while in foot pursuit. It went off and he lost his life. We sent my Son's in for the fix but Taurus/Rossi deemed it unserviceable and offered and he accepted a new Taurus.

Upon seeing the full Letter/Serial number of the NIB GB Rossi revolver it is on the Recall list.
Question is.... Is it improper to contact the Seller to pass this information on, incase he isn't aware?
My Son and I never received any notice from Rossi about the recall even though he had registered the Warranty Card.
Are the current bidders aware...... IDK.
To me whether it's a friend or stranger a simple FYI note about a firearms safety is the right thing to do.

Is it considered a case of sticking your nose in someone else's business ?


Curious to your thoughts,