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    I suppose mine is too Singer When I started my interest in milsurps, my goal was obtain or build service rifle shooters from all the WW2 allies. I waited long and hard for the right Frenchicon MAS 36. Pre-occupation examples are hard to come by - many that I would find looked like they were hidden away in a cave or barn by resistance fighters, to be abandoned or forgotten to rust away until found decades later. I don't have a pre-occupation MAS, and don't care to find one as I have my shooter and enjoy it. I'd have to look in my file cabinet but I think the receiver dates to early 50's soon after production started again, and the barrel is pristine 1964. Fortunately it had an "N", or centered rear sight aperture, and the front obelisk seems to be dead on at 100 yds.

    I have not dug too far by way of documentation, but conversations with old timers at my shooting club point to the fact that most of the French small arms were left behind at Dunkirk and destroyed by the Germans, and those elements that evacuated and later invaded with the Brits carried Lee Enfields. So, why are French milsurps from that time so rare (comparitevely)? Well, common sense...the French factories missed out on the greatest period of war-time small arms production the world has ever seen, and I don't think the numbers produced after the war for use abroad even comes close. They aren't "rare" so to speak, just not as prevalent for the reasons stated.

    Now I'm sure I've opened up a can a worms. Before I get yelled at then - Disclaimer...I have no "solid" position on the matter, I'm happy to be told I'm wrong, evolve, and would love to hear more...hopefully with documented evidence and sources and not the hearsay I've already heard (especially since it has the understandably American bias)
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    Haha! I was at a gun show in southern California about a month ago. One of the vendors had a "mint, unfired Mas-36" for sale. The gun was in beautiful condition and the vendor was adamant that it was unfired. I explained to him that the Frenchicon had refurbished all of them to like new condition before exporting them to the USAicon and I had a beautiful 36 at home just like his. I'm sure someone at the show believed him and paid the $900 he was asking. My Mas 49/56 was one of the Century Arms .308 conversions that normally don't work well, but mine works just fine thank goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    I suppose mine is too Singer When I started my interest in milsurps, my goal was obtain or build service rifle shooters from all the WW2 allies.
    That is pretty much how I started. I wanted an Italianicon, a Germanicon, a Japanese, a Russianicon, an American, a Frenchicon and an English gun.
    Then I bumped into my first Mauser…, then the Smelly…
    Turned out that I skipped several times the Mas or Berthier, the Arisakaicon 99 once…
    Sooner or later, though!
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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