Late War Inland Carbine - from Philippines?

[jimb16]

The R stamped on the front sight is for Rudy Furnace co.

[USGI]

No M2 cutout...

Not trying to hi-jack the OP's thread here, but just wondering something. Russ, does your stock have the long barrel channel like the one I pictured above (and below) - or does the channel at the front, end about where the yellow arrow is? Thanks! - Bob

[RASelkirk]

Bob, mine has the long channel groove. Oddly, no other markings on the stock other than this in the slingwell.



Russ

[USGI]

Russ, That's definitely an Inland stock, but I've never seen one with that hole in the slingwell. Is your stock basically flat from the trigger housing forward, or is does it have some "pot belly" to it like Jim's (jjspearson) as shown in his very first picture on page 1? I believe there were a couple variations of the Inland "long channel" stocks near the end of production. Painter777 (Charlie) has some notes posted on them either here or on the Carbine Club Forum, but I can't find them right now. The other markings in your slingwell must be someone's initials. - Bob

[jimb16]

I've seen several stocks with that hole. I believe it is where the hole for the butt plate screw went too deep because someone wasn't paying attention. The stock would have been accepted anyway because the hole doesn't compromise anything. That is also why the hole is slightly oval instead of round. The drill hit the bevel at an angle.

[RASelkirk]

Bob,, no pot belly on this one. I never gave that hole a thought, but James' answer is quite logical.

Russ

[USGI]

I saw what looked like a nick at the right edge of the hole, but thought it went straight in - perpendicular to the surface.

Russ: Does your stock have the "Crossed Cannons" acceptance stock on the RH side? Thanks! - Bob

[RASelkirk]

I saw what looked like a nick at the right edge of the hole, but thought it went straight in - perpendicular to the surface.

Russ: Does your stock have the "Crossed Cannons" acceptance stock on the RH side? Thanks! - Bob

No, no other markings. This stock does not appear to be heavily sanded, so I'd expect at least some of the normal markings to show through, but there's nothing my eyes can see hidden away.

Russ

[USGI]

Thanks, Russ. If anyone else reading this thread is interested in these late Inland questions, click on the links in the SIMILAR THREADS section at the bottom of the page. Lot's of "good stuff" to be found there! - Bob

[painter777]

Bob, mine has the long channel groove. Oddly, no other markings on the stock other than this in the slingwell.

Selky,
One theory....
When the stock makers sent stocks to the Prime makers they had to include so many extra stocks. Lets say for every 100 stocks and HG's they had to send 10 extra stocks and HG's as extras. In the field if a stock needed replacement a extra would be pulled from supply. Luck of the draw if it was the correct maker. Possible (?) your original that was accepted, having the CC stamp on it was damaged and a replacement put on it. There would be no Ordnance inspector there to stamp a CC on it. It was already bought and paid for.

Having a long channel with no M2 mods would likely make your stock a 'Transition' stock. Late made Type III stocks were getting beefed up as M2 production geared up.
Along with the longer barrel channel (which made this area stronger) look to see if your right rail is thicker. I know WRA had phased in the recoil plate support ledge near this time. I can't recall if the stock makers for Inland did the same at this time. I have a few Inland long channels but are stored way back in my vault. Holding a WRA or Inland Long Channel in hand you can feel the wrist is bulked up. Both having a stouter feel in hand.

Winchester built their M2's on the Late Type III stock but with the M2 mods applied.

This link (about 1/4 the way down) will show/describe more details on the 'Transitional' Type III stocks, some call these a Type IV. I prefer calling them 'Late Type III if they have no M2 mods. Having M2 mods makes it a Type IV to me.
From the CCCF and Jim Mock:
The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbine Stocks & Handguards

The hole was added by someone, possibly for a sling attachment point. I've seen others like this used for sling attachment. Also where they screwed wood to fill the sling slot... though I don't believe thats the case on your stock.

To the OP,
That's a interesting find. It will take some dedicated research and some luck can't hurt. I've seen some that you'd think couldn't be solved like the Da Vinci Code. Then one day someone steps up and nails the meanings. Congrats on your find.

Cheers...