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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I guess realistically we had just started using smokeless powder and it was still being perfected. Not that surprising but for sure not a very well discussed fact of that time. The whole discussion revolves around single heat treated receivers or "Cooking" them...
    Jim, was the .30-03 the first US true smokeless powder cartridge? I hadt even thought about it, yet I knew Portugal didnt have access to smokeless powder until...'97 was it!?!? I guess this makes sense since the previous US cartridge was the .30-40, right? .30 calibre - 40 grains of black powder? If all this is true is it is a "duhh" moment for me as it now seems pretty obvious!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1903Collector View Post
    was the .30-03 the first US true smokeless powder cartridge?
    I thought it was either the 30-30 or the 30-40 Kragicon? 30 cal and 30 or 40 grains respectively. Both were smokeless from the start though.

    Someone here will tell us. Smokeless would have been in it's infancy though.
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