5.7 Johnson and M1 Carbine

[DaveHH]

That caliber has a reputation of being a killer but if you read Korean war books like "Break Out" or SLAM's "River and the Gauntlet" there were a lot of Marines getting shot with a PPSH 41 and keep right on fighting for hours and days.
The bullet is really light if I'm not mistaken. The commies used their 7.62XX25 to give people "9mm headaches". If I had a choice between a MP38/40 or a PPSH, it would be a hard choice. I'd probably go for 71 rounds instead of 30/40.

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[eb in oregon]

That caliber has a reputation of being a killer but if you read Korean war books like "Break Out" or SLAM's "River and the Gauntlet" there were a lot of Marines getting shot with a PPSH 41 and keep right on fighting for hours and days.
The bullet is really light if I'm not mistaken. The commies used their 7.62XX25 to give people "9mm headaches". If I had a choice between a MP38/40 or a PPSH, it would be a hard choice. I'd probably go for 71 rounds instead of 30/40.

There is a difference between one hole or five or more. The PPSh 41 is a remarkably easy gun to hold down for accurate fire on automatic fire. And with a fire rate of more than double the MP 38/40 (about 1250 or so vs 500) with less recoil it's not something to dismiss because the loading was only a 85 grain projectile at about 1600 fps.