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    So I have no conclusive thoughts on this. Some issues I am noticing are:
    1) No second sling swivel, this indicates to me the stock is a cut down stock from something else, the Soviets as far as I am aware always had sling swivels on the stock even if it was just a milled wood slot.
    2) It appears to have a screwed in escutcheon on the sling swivel (hard to tell from the photo). This indicates to me the stock had some time taken on it, not some sort of wartime expediency as you wouldn't have bothered spending so much time on one sling swivel and not put the other in.
    3) As far as I am aware the Soviets always had the hand guard retainers on their M38 stocks, so this is not a M38 stock
    4) The upper handguard appears to be cut down, it is missing the end cap

    Basically what I am leaning towards is a Finnishicon replacement stock, likely made from a combination of parts. If I had to guess the upper handguard is likely a cut down M91/30 handguard, and the stock itself is likely a cut down Finnish M91 rifle stock as it lacks the retainers but still has a sling slot cut in it. This could have simply been done by a average Finn, not necessarily their military as both those parts likely would have been relatively common, but replacement M38 stocks wouldn't have been. All the reading I have done (both in published books and online) has never indicated shortcuts like those that would have been taken on this rifle (though that doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that I have never heard of it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglelord17 View Post
    So I have no conclusive thoughts on this. Some issues I am noticing are:
    1) No second sling swivel, this indicates to me the stock is a cut down stock from something else, the Soviets as far as I am aware always had sling swivels on the stock even if it was just a milled wood slot.
    2) It appears to have a screwed in escutcheon on the sling swivel (hard to tell from the photo). This indicates to me the stock had some time taken on it, not some sort of wartime expediency as you wouldn't have bothered spending so much time on one sling swivel and not put the other in.
    3) As far as I am aware the Soviets always had the hand guard retainers on their M38 stocks, so this is not a M38 stock
    4) The upper handguard appears to be cut down, it is missing the end cap

    Basically what I am leaning towards is a Finnishicon replacement stock, likely made from a combination of parts. If I had to guess the upper handguard is likely a cut down M91/30 handguard, and the stock itself is likely a cut down Finnish M91 rifle stock as it lacks the retainers but still has a sling slot cut in it. This could have simply been done by a average Finn, not necessarily their military as both those parts likely would have been relatively common, but replacement M38 stocks wouldn't have been. All the reading I have done (both in published books and online) has never indicated shortcuts like those that would have been taken on this rifle (though that doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that I have never heard of it).
    Good feedback. You may be correct. I my have been seeing what I wanted to see!

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