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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Tarletonicon View Post
    I got my information from the Marine Corps. Where did you get yours? And I did break down the information by era as anyone who checks will discover. As for you retrieving a living Marine's service record, anyone who has ever tried knows that is BS. Anyone reading this can check the website for themselves. Before you go too far guys, the Marines used the same MOS Codes as did the Army until halfway through 1945. That "Sniper" MOS 761 he's throwing against the wall is the 1945 Army code for "Scout" - not "Sniper".

    U.S. Marine Rifle Company (1944-1945) (The Battle Order didn't change from 1944 through RVN)

    Marine Corps MOS List | MOSDb

    Everyone else is wrong but you, because you have "documents". What I posted came directly from the Marine Corps website. If you have any document that refutes what they say, let's see it.

    You are playing to the crowd now. That ploy might work with the younger guys, but the older guys know better. OK, I stand by every word I posted. If you have ANY document that proves me wrong, throw it out there for all to see.

    Jim again you are confusing the Marine Corps Eras and combining them into one big confused mesh. The MOS info you are posting is current, not what it was back in WWII. On the chart you just posted an Infantry Rifleman is a 0311. Back in WWII it was a 745. A Machine Gunner today is a 0331, back in WWII it was a 746.

    I don't need to post the docs on this,because this is very basic info that is easily accessible and very widely known by even entry level Marine Researchers.

    USMC MOS Codes, WWII Era - The Military Yearbook Project


    As far as Service Record books again you are not correct. They do not go by if the Marine is living, they go by the year they served. Any Marines personal records are easily accessible as long as he served by the mid 50's. You just have to walk into St Louis and use a simple pull card with the name and service number. Anything after the mid 50's is still accessible it just requires more paperwork and you have to File a Freedom of info request to be able to view it.

    As I said Jim, there is a substantial amount of new info out there because everything has changed.

    Good luck in your research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cplstevennorton View Post
    Jim you are just confirming what I am saying. You're confusing all the Marine Corps Eras and combinging them into one big confused mesh. The MOS info you are posting is current, not what it was back in WWII. On the chart you just posted an Infantry Rifleman is a 0311. Back in WWII it was a 745. A Machine Gunner today is a 0331, back in WWII it was a 746.
    Nice try. It is you who is confused. You erroneously claimed MOS 761 was the WWII USMC MOS for a sniper. When I pointed out your obvious error, you are avoiding confronting your DA error by babbling about riflemen MOS, etc. What happened? Were you surprised I would know the Marines used Army MOS's in early war years? Or were you just confused?

    I don't even need to post the docs on this, because anyone who understands even the basics of WWII Marine Corps already knows this. This info is also readily available online. You can literally google "WWII MArine MOS" and you find master lists of this. This info is correct, I have the docs that back it up.
    Does that mean you don't even understand the basics of WWII Marine Corps? At the least, you admit it! The reason you don't post any documents is that you have no document that refutes anything I posted.

    As far as Service Record books again you are not correct. They do not go by if the Marine is living, they go by the year they served. Any Marines personal records are easily accessible as long as he served by the mid 50's. You just have to walk into St Louis and use a simple pull card with the name and service number. Anything after the mid 50's is still accessible it just requires more paperwork and you have to File a Freedom of info request.
    I invite anyone reading this to try to retrieve the service records of a living Marine not related to you. Find out for yourself.

    As I said Jim, everything has changed. There is a substantial amount of new info out there for you to research. Good luck.
    You are a data collector. You are no researcher. There is a huge difference between the two. Life is change, but the truth of history never changes.
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