Springfield 1903 - 458 Winchester Magnum

[oldfoneguy]

I detached a retina earlier this year and I can attest to the fact that it is no joke. Mine was caused by age and wear not heavy recoil but the end result is the same. I now have a small cabbage that rolls about in my eye with each movement. When target shooting I have to pause and wait for the cabbage to settle down to the bottom of the eye in order to obtain a clear sight picture. I can understand how it would be impossible for a sniper to function with this condition. I will be getting an operation early next year to clear the eye which the optometrist is not keen on. Hopefully all works well.

[daveboy]

Pshaw. Bolt-actions are so old-fashioned.
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Oh, heck no!

[Redleg]

Many 458's are built on '98 style Mauser actions.
Ruger, Remington and CZ built many 458's, too.

The '03 action is comparable in weight to the Mausers. Getting a bbl that is heavy enough, and a stock that is substantial enough, with recoil bolts and a decellerator pad, is paramount.

I have a Rem 700, custom shop 458 Win mag that has been to Africa 5 times ( not with me) and has taken many head of big game. This gun weights all of ten pounds and is not unpleasant to shoot with my reloads.

Think a light, lever action guide gun in 45-70+. or a 12 gage shotgun with high brass slug loads...those shotguns are always way too light and recoil is heavy with those guns.

[rcathey]

Think a light, lever action guide gun in 45-70+. or a 12 gage shotgun with high brass slug loads...those shotguns are always way too light and recoil is heavy with those guns.

Oh that’s not so bad. I had one of those Marlin’s and shot a “bear load” 45-70 in it. That combo meant business but it wasn’t shoulder dislocating or anything.

[CINDERS]

TBH with the hot loads I was putting through my 444, 240gn Hornady HP @2400Fps for 3070fpe really made for lively recoil.
My friend hot loaded his 45/70 with 300gn projies but loaded the powder to nearly the top of the case and compressed loaded it with the projie, I stayed well away from him when we shot together the Marlins lock up is not a real super strong affair.

I've seen where the U.S have trialed the 375 Chey Tac and the 408 Chey Tac have they been adopted by the service as sniper rifles!