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    1. I'm immediately skeptical when anyone says "all original" about a Garandicon, especially one that is "available." I find the definitions vary when pressed for details.

    2. "Correct grade" is just a marketing term. It's nothing you can't do yourself with a few buddies swapping parts. Yeah, it's kinda cool if you care, though, and if it comes with the CMPicon tag, it helps resale value for your heirs.

    3. I thought myself better than average in rifle knowledge and have no idea what an AFPG is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    1. I'm immediately skeptical when anyone says "all original" about a Garandicon, especially one that is "available." I find the definitions vary when pressed for details.
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    Afpg

    Air Force Premium Grade. Essentially the AF National Match, usually built at Lackland AFB. CMPicon got a bunch of them back in 2012 and we wrote them up in the GCAicon Journal. The barrels are hand stamped AFPG.
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    Afpg

    The issue was Summer 2012, lots of great details on this variation. One I always thought was cool was the stock marking: last four serial digits, the date built, and one to five punch marks in the channel that we speculated identified the armorer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I thought myself better than average in rifle knowledge and have no idea what an AFPG is.
    Air Force Premium Grade. Built to be 1/2 MOA National Match rifles.

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    [QUOTE=MAC702;537972]1. I'm immediately skeptical when anyone says "all original" about a Garandicon, especially one that is "available." I find the definitions vary when pressed for details.

    2. "Correct grade" is just a marketing term. It's nothing you can't do yourself with a few buddies swapping parts. Yeah, it's kinda cool if you care, though, and if it comes with the CMPicon tag, it helps resale value for your heirs.

    Maybe Correct is not the best term to use - how would you describe a rifle restored to a configuration that is consistent with how it left the factory?

    This rifle originally had a bad op-rod and was sent back to CMP on its return it had an NM Op-rod and NM gas cylinder - Barrel was NM marked when purchased
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester View Post
    ...Maybe Correct is not the best term to use - how would you describe a rifle restored to a configuration that is consistent with how it left the factory?...
    I think "correct grade" is an acceptable term for it. It's just not all that big a deal unless you're building a gas trap or something early and unusual.

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    Correct

    Collector Grade is valuable to those who want to collect "As manufactured." CMPicon often has the correct parts and can simulate originality by putting on the right ones. You can do it yourself with a lot of searching and expense or let them do it for you.
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