They shot Trump

[jond41403]

Why did they have "Police" on their vests then if they were "Secret Service" (counter snipers)?

There does sound like an element of too many agencies involved and perhaps a breakdown in communication between them.

Again, it was not the police that took the shot regardless of what they had on their vests. The secret service are not police in the same sense. You alluded earlier that they might have been afraid to shoot him because of him being an innocent bystander because a lot of cops go to jail and get charged for that type of thing, this is nowhere near the same kind of scenario. The secret service do not have to be as careful as the police do if that makes sense. The president must be protected at all costs, Even if it means the secret service mowing down and innocent civilian

[Aragorn243]

That photo you posted the link to is the same photo only the quality is less, it's turned 90 degrees and it's a mirror image.

As for the police vs secret service, they were both there. And the police were from several departments. They had the PA State Police, the Butler County Police and the Beaver County "response" team there which had no jurisdiction but were there anyway, not sure in what capacity.

It's normal to have various departments at these events. Communication seems to have failed and this is all on the Secret Service who are to take charge completely in these situations. I have never heard of such a fiasco to be honest.

Add to all this controversy, Secret Service personnel were diverted from the Trump event to an event where the 1st Lady appeared in nearby Pittsburg on the same day. This is idiocy because no one cares about the 1st Lady, no one is going to assassinate her, she needs minimal protection.

Anyone that wants the photo, PM me your email address and I'll send it. I don't have the original link anymore, didn't save it, didn't think to.

[Surpmil]

OK, I see it now. I agree that's the entry wound....

Gents, without becoming too gruesome, the whole socket of the left eye and the brow area above it have been detached and pushed forward and down, suggesting pretty conclusively that the entry wound is above and "behind" that area. The blood on the face is what gravity caused to run down as he lay face down on the roof after being killed. The photo shows him rolled onto his left shoulder by the attending officers. We know this because the two blood flows from behind the right ear would have had to defy gravity if he was found lying on his left side.

One wonders what use the police tactical team would be inside a building at such times, and the same building no less.

[jond41403]

That's also a metal roof , One would think that the people inside that building would hear someone crawling and flopping around on the roof

[Flying10uk]

Again, it was not the police that took the shot regardless of what they had on their vests.

How are you so sure of this?

There is sometimes a difference between what is supposed to happen and what does happen.

[Aragorn243]

It was the Secret Service that took the shot. While this is a confusing mess, that is one thing we are sure of.

[Surpmil]

It was the Secret Service that took the shot. While this is a confusing mess, that is one thing we are sure of.

Local police are now claiming that one of theirs (also) fired at the shooter. I thought it was strange the disassembly of the venue began the next day before any sort of investigation could begin on site. Or has the podium and the bleachers behind it been left in place?

The direction a bullet is fired from can often be determined by following its track through solid material, just like a dummy head used in the trenches of WWI.

[Ovidio]

Reeks more every day…

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

Has the shooter's brief participation on a HS shooting been confirmed?

[Aragorn243]

Just interviews of two fellow students as far as I know. It is the top link when you do a search for the school.