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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    FYI: A 1/12 pitch is the correct slope for a wheelchair ramp.
    But be sure to put on the brake before taking the shot.

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    Too Much ?

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    I'd say that's just right!
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    Some new information to muddy things up even more if that is possible.

    His former high school has come forward to set the record straight. They have no records of this kid being bullied. He was smart, got good grades and was popular with his teachers (teacher's pet it sounds like).

    They have no record of him trying out for the rifle team nor does the coach remember him, but they did acknowledge that he could have come to a class, fired a shot and then left and there would be no record of this. (I have open gyms prior to the start of season and tryouts. Usually at least two. Kids can come without physicals and shoot as this is not rifle practice, nor a tryout, it's like a gym class. It gives kids the opportunity to see if they might like it before actually signing up for it. I keep a list of attendees but usually discard it after the season starts. I also have trouble remembering kids who never made varsity if they were there for only one year).
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    He was NOT the student who made threats against the school, that was someone else. And he has no record of any disciplinary incidents on either side, so no bullying.

    So where is the media coming up with all this? Word of mouth of classmates? Some of it yes.

    I has also been released that they had the shooter in their rifle sights for over two minutes prior to the shooting. They were told that there was going to be a sniper on that roof. This smells to high heaven. There was a sniper alight, one wanting to kill the President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    Because secret service where police vests, black suits, plain clothes, and various other uniforms. They don't all wear the same uniforms like a
    But so do the police wear police vests and at this stage you don't know which were secret service and which were police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    It is not a reasonable consideration by the secret service director to not put agents on that roof because of a slope,it's ludicrous
    There may have been other legitimate safety concerns that are not currently in the public domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    I am sure the same way everybody else on here is sure. From the very beginning the secret service said they had the inner perimeter and the police had the outer perimeter. The snipers behind Trump's stage with the police vests on were obviously on the inner perimeter which should tell anybody they were secret service. They are not going to trust police snipers enough to put them right behind Trump. Anything that close to him is going to be reserved for secret service only.
    I don't believe that you can be sure of anything relating to this matter at this stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    And he has no record of any disciplinary incidents on either side, so no bullying.
    This does not mean he wasn't bullied. It just means there's no paper trail of it. Not all bullying gets documented. Depending on the severity of what qualifies as "bullying" these days, it's very possible that most of it is undocumented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    This does not mean he wasn't bullied. It just means there's no paper trail of it. Not all bullying gets documented. Depending on the severity of what qualifies as "bullying" these days, it's very possible that most of it is undocumented.
    I believe I read somewhere where they were interviewing a few of his classmates and they said that he did get bullied a little bit but nothing over the top at all. Who knows if that was just made up by the media or true I don't know
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    Well it looks to me there were no legitimate safety concerns with the roof being there are four grown men standing in one 4-ft area proving structural integrity, also proving the pitch of the roof was hardly anything to worry about. The structure is not dilapidated in any way. If those grown men can stand there and process the crime scene, then a sniper team could have stood there with rifles.
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    Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns

    7/23/24 @ 10:30 am EST

    Does this mean she now pleads the 5th to any future questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    7/23/24 @ 10:30 am EST

    Does this mean she now pleads the 5th to any future questions?
    I bet you it does!
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