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Originally Posted by
Bill Hollinger
freeze the paint balls
Those have been documented to go through quarter inch plywood.
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03-05-2025 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
eb in oregon
Nice toy, I've no use for toys.
Let me rephrase that slightly, seeing as I once used both BB guns and paintball guns in training. I'm 72, long retired, and no longer run around the woods (or in buildings) hunting people in training, so I only shoot and collect live firearms and have no use for a toy regardless it's value to training.
"You are what you do when it counts."
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Originally Posted by
eb in oregon
I once used both BB guns and paintball guns in training.
I'd like to hear THAT story...or stories...
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Those have been documented to go through quarter inch plywood.
Yep! They hurt like heck!!! Oh, and we SWAT guys got our rear ends handed to us!!! They don't play fair! They cheat! 

Bill Hollinger
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Originally Posted by
Bill Hollinger
we SWAT guys
We had our own local ERT guys come out for training when Recce Platoon was doing a course. They in turn came to see if we wanted to send reps when they wanted to excersise locally... No paintball guns though.
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We had our own local ERT guys come out for training when Recce Platoon was doing a course. They in turn came to see if we wanted to send reps when they wanted to excersise locally... No paintball guns though.
I was so happy when we graduated from paint ball guns to Simuniltions. Ever shot Sims out of an MP5? The velocity with them will sink the Sims under the skin! 
Thank you Jim!
Last edited by Bill Hollinger; 03-06-2025 at 10:07 PM.
Reason: Can't spell :)
Bill Hollinger
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Originally Posted by
Bill Hollinger
Ever shot Sims out of an MP5?
I unfortunately missed those, have a few in my cartridge collection from the ones left in my desk drawer in the Small Arms School. The new Joint Task Force used them but I didn't get more than reports from guys on them. I think they're all out of the system now.
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Regards, Jim
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Originally Posted by
Bill Hollinger
Yep! They hurt like heck!!! Oh, and we SWAT guys got our rear ends handed to us!!! They don't play fair! They cheat!
There is no cheating in combat, there are only winners and losers.
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I'd like to hear THAT story...or stories...
Red Ryder BB guns (and goggles) in "Quick Fire" training (instinctive shooting) 1970 and paintball guns during woodland training years later. It was essentially unauthorized scout unit training with self provided paintball guns. Make sure you wear your worst set of BDU's. And I still have no use for an airsoft replica of anything. If not live I don't need/want it.
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Originally Posted by
eb in oregon
"Quick Fire" training
Got it.
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