Indian Carbine Machine 9mm 1A (Sterling) from Ordnance Factory Trichy (OFT)

[reccetrooper]

The Indian made copies of the Mk4 Sterling, known as Carbine Machine 9mm 1A, are usually stamped SAF indicating manufacture by Small Arms Factory Kanpur, however here is one stamped OFT indicating manufacture by Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli (Trichy).

OFT was established in 1967 to increase production of small arms in India, assisting RFI (Ishapore) and SAF (Kanpur). Online info about OFT products does not mention 1A production, has anyone seen any other OFT marked 1A ?

[Peter Laidler]

I never saw one and neither had Howroyd or Edmiston Looks like their pantograph engraving machine was well past its best by 1972!.

Both Indian and Canadian Sterling SMG's are rare outside India and Canada. A good indication of both keeping to their manufacturing agreement. Although an Indian RFI gun turned up in Africa* by the mines clearance group. We were asked if we wanted it and said yes. The SMG got all tied up in the what was usually a simple diplomatic 'move' - so I say no more
* we think seized from Indian Army UN peace keepers that were there at the time

[reccetrooper]

This OFT 1A was in a small batch of Sterlings brought into the UK from Austria by a dealer, and deactivated to EU Spec.

I know of two other Indian 1A in Europe, both are 1973 dated and made by SAF, one is in Germany the owner bought it in the Netherlands where it had been deactivated, the other is in Poland, where it has been converted to semi-auto only.

[Sapper740]

Here are some pics of the Canadian C1:

[Peter Laidler]

Nice early Mk1 Land Rover there. Photo 1, the Canadian BFA fitted. Best of all, the M1919 on the early M113

[browningautorifle]

Third pic strikes me as odd. It's titled "The photograph shows Canadian peacekeepers from the 1st Battalion, Canadian Guards, working on communication lines between their headquarters in Kyrenia and the Nicosia Zone headquarters of UNFICYP. "

The guy foreground is portraying a sentry and we didn't do that over there. Lots of Observation Post but not what he's doing. Strange posing by a photog. Canadian Guards were the only regiment that had no battle honors on their colors, disbanded with unification.

[Sapper740]

Third pic strikes me as odd. It's titled "The photograph shows Canadian peacekeepers from the 1st Battalion, Canadian Guards, working on communication lines between their headquarters in Kyrenia and the Nicosia Zone headquarters of UNFICYP. "

The guy foreground is portraying a sentry and we didn't do that over there. Lots of Observation Post but not what he's doing. Strange posing by a photog. Canadian Guards were the only regiment that had no battle honors on their colors, disbanded with unification.

That's no surprise Jim, Canadian photogs are very prone to asking CF members to adopt poses that they could caption, "Brave Canadian Peacekeepers throughout the World stand guard" or some such blather. It sells well to the people back home i guess. I was part of the RDF (Rapid Deployment Force) at Camp Zuoani on the Golan Heights and we were ordered to don our webgear, helmets, and rifles and form a kneeling V at the gate so some clown could take our picture. That is the last thing we would have done if there was trouble, of course.

[reccetrooper]

Another Indian 1A machine carbine made by Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli (Trichy).

Serial number on this one starts UU and is 1973 dated. The other one starts FF and is 1972 dated.

I have asked the dealer to check if any of the magazines with these guns are Indian made, one of them I know has a Sterling made magazine.