Alvin: Those ol' pump guns really lit em' up! They can say what they want about Vietnam, but old grunts like us are here to tell our stories, drink our beer and chase the trim. I tell everybody, Vietnam Vets were not the "Greatest Generation" but every damn one of us was trained by a member of the "GG"...OUR DADS OR GRANDFATHERS OR UNCLES!!! As a member of the 25TH. I.D. let me cross branch lines and give a hearty SEMPER FI to all my Marine brothers! Warmest regards to all Americans on the 4th. [even Quakers because I love those damned Oats!] Jerry aka ALVIN #1